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Old 05-07-2015, 09:54 PM
 
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There it goes again. Just try to question something and present what might be taken as a possible opposing view and be branded an anti semite. One of my best friends from high school is a semite and we hung around together a lot and I never hated him for being a semite.
You need to read that again. People are just raising the question of you being an anti-semite, presenting it as an possible opposing view. Shouldn't they have every right to do that?

And did you just play the "some of my best friends" card for real?

 
Old 05-07-2015, 09:55 PM
mm4
 
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The Nazis share more in common with extreme right-wing groups that they do leftist ideologies. Hitler banned socialist groups in the 30's, and hated communists.
The left historically turns on the left, from Brezhnev vs. Mao, from Shining Path vs. MRTA, from UNITA vs. MPLA, from Vietnam vs. Democratic Kampuchea, from Bloomberg vs. Occupy, from Quan vs. Occupy,.... The progressive left is historically strikingly internecine.

The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics and the Polish People's Republic (not to mention the DPRK, Cuba,....) also banned unions. Unions are held to be no longer necessary at the pinnacle of the socialist ideal.

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He was war-mongering patriot who believed in a strong military and (putting it mildly) hated diversity. Sounds like a right-winger to me.
From Brigate Rosse, to Shining Path, to MRTA, from Weather Underground to the Symbionese Liberation Army, to People's Temple, the progressive left is all about aggressive social-engineering, and boundary transgression--both interpersonal and transnational.

Listen to Larry Grathwohl describe the progressive-leftist Weather Underground's Guantanamo-esque plans for American dissidents:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_5MY59ENrc

While your fellow progressive leftists walk around the urban landscape in camo attire, fists raised. A clot of Jacobin hooligans who don't even know where the capital for the evolution of computing for their iPads comes from.

The only war mongers are the progressive left and the neocons (aka leftist Republicans/Rockefeller Republicans). Neither are right wing.

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Old 05-07-2015, 10:18 PM
 
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It isn't going to be forgotten by any westerner .Remember the result was seen by many of our fathers and mothers in person. The worse shock was it was a western nation thought to be a civil society. Germany certainly isn't forgetting as Merkel recently said. Its a example of what even a well educated humans are capable of. Now we see the same factions in middle east who supported the Nazis rise again.
 
Old 05-07-2015, 10:19 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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It isn't going to be forgotten by any westerner .Remember the result was seen by many of our fathers and mothers in person. The worse shock was it was a western nation thought to be a civil society. Germany certainly isn't forgetting as Merkel recently said. Its a example of what even a well educated humans are capable of. Now we see the same factions in middle east who supported the Nazis rise again.
There you go.
 
Old 05-07-2015, 10:29 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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The left historically turns on the left, from Brezhnev vs. Mao, from Shining Path vs. MRTA, from UNITA vs. MPLA, from Vietnam vs. Democratic Kampuchea, from Bloomberg vs. Occupy, from Quan vs. Occupy,.... The progressive left is historically strikingly internecine.

The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics and the Polish People's Republic (not to mention the DPRK, Cuba,....) also banned unions. Unions are held to be no longer necessary at the pinnacle of the socialist ideal.


From Brigate Rosse, to Shining Path, to MRTA, from Weather Underground to the Symbionese Liberation Army, to People's Temple, the progressive left is all about aggressive social-engineering, and boundary transgression--both interpersonal and transnational.

Listen to Larry Grathwohl describe the progressive-leftist Weather Underground's Guantanamo-esque plans for American dissidents:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_5MY59ENrc

While your fellow progressive leftists walk around the urban landscape in camo attire, fists raised. A clot of Jacobin hooligans who don't even know where the capital for the evolution of computing for their iPads comes from.

Keep swinging and missing. The Nazis were as right-wing as it got. They believed in a social hierarchy, a respect for authority, and a belief that absolute power should be concentrated in the hands of a few. They were the opposite of your typical spread-the-wealth "godless commie", and that's why you were defending them in this thread.
 
Old 05-07-2015, 10:32 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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I don't ask that question for myself because I don't know enough about what happened to give an honest opinion but I think it is wrong that people who deny the holocaust cannot have their opinions and debates without the threat of political correct threats and sometimes arrests made. Even if what the holocaust revisionists say something that is totally ridiculous they still have a right to their beliefs and opinions. Why fear people who deny the holocaust when all they have to do is prove that it happened. What runs against my grain is that I was brought up to believe that a person(or people) can have any opinion they want because we are a land of freedom of speech. So maybe I am missing a link somewhere but why not let the holocaust revisionists have their say.

Oh please don't come with this troll business. This isn't a troll.
Having an opinion is fine. But when your opinion consists of contradicting facts that are broadly evidenced from many different perspectives, particularly when they were very painful to a particular class of people, then the rest of us have the right to form an opinion that you're a moron.
 
Old 05-07-2015, 10:33 PM
 
Location: Aztlan
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The Nazis share more in common with extreme right-wing groups that they do leftist ideologies. Hitler banned socialist groups in the 30's.
Uh, Hitler's party was called the National Socialist German Worker's Party. Hitler was left wing to the core.
 
Old 05-07-2015, 10:38 PM
 
Location: Aztlan
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Keep swinging and missing. The Nazis were as right-wing as it got. They believed in a social hierarchy, a respect for authority, and a belief that absolute power should be concentrated in the hands of a few.
Sounds a lot like the modern day Democratic party.
 
Old 05-07-2015, 10:38 PM
mm4
 
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Keep swinging and missing. The Nazis were as right-wing as it got. They believed in a social hierarchy, a respect for authority, and a belief that absolute power should be concentrated in the hands of a few. They were the opposite of your typical spread-the-wealth "godless commie", and that's why you were defending them in this thread.
Then you'll have to point where in this thread that occurred.

Right wingers avoid anything with "Socialist" and "Workers" like the plague. They would no sooner wish to be within 10 miles of a function with "Sozialisten" and "Arbeiter" above the doorbell, than you would want to be anywhere near one with "Tee-Partei" on it.

Who exactly do you think you're fooling?
 
Old 05-07-2015, 10:38 PM
 
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The right wing is the wing that doesn't want progressive lefties bragging that the latter are "really good at killing people" or droning wedding parties with hard wares purchased with limitless debt.



The socialist Obama was also suddenly declared "right wing" by his chagrined leftist followers after they discovered the public was turned off by him.

Taking a learning cue from their leftist political antecedents' unabashedly and shamelessly declaring a National Socialist German Workers Party leader "right wing" by his chagrined leftist followers after they discovered the public was turned off by him at Nuremberg.
I really hate this phrase but in your case it's warranted.....put up or shut up. I have yet to see anything constructive from you. You just want attack without any evidence.
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