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I for one don't trust a darn thing they say. Jim and Michelle act like they are innocent of any wrong doing. Just listen to how they talk. Specially Jim bob, he totally corrects anything that reporter said and is like well Technically a pedophile is 16 and older and yada yada yada. He did this multiple times. And what about josh touching another girl OUTSIDE of the family, that is down right sexual assault right there. They make it sound like touching over clothing is ok. If touching over clothes is fine then why would anyway else be arrested for grabbing a woman by the breasts in public. well she had a tshirt and bra on that's not touch... right tell that to a judge. They don't even do "regular hugs" because that would be touching genitals so how does that make sense? what a bunch of hypocrites.
I am so glad someone finally exposed this family for what they really are. No one family is perfect but most people don't go on tv acting like they are.
Never watch their show but I know they are known as a loving Christian family. This revelation only reveals that they are no different than any other family. Very sad for the sisters that were molested.
1. Yes, it does say that Josh told them first. The report is very clear that Josh came and told Jim Bob.
2. Yes, Josh was 14 when he alerted his father to what he had done. In my state, 14 is a child still.
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Originally Posted by DC at the Ridge
You need to re-check your facts.
Okay, before this turns into an argument over timelines and details....
1. Did Josh Duggar molest his sisters?
2. Did the parents not tell anyone or get the kids help for over a year, until Josh repeated the behavior two more times that they know of?
3. Were some of the victims awake when it happened?
4. Did the children ever receive counseling from a certified counselor? Did the family turn down suggestions to go to a certified counselor?
5. Did the parents initially lie about their handling of the situation to the police?
6. Did they say things in their Fox interview that are known to be untrue?
7. Was the police report obtained legally and not "leaked'?
So... why are people defending them so hard again?
Okay, before this turns into an argument over timelines and details....
1. Did Josh Duggar molest his sisters?
2. Did the parents not tell anyone or get the kids help for over a year, until Josh repeated the behavior two more times that they know of?
3. Were some of the victims awake when it happened?
4. Did the children ever receive counseling from a certified counselor? Did the family turn down suggestions to go to a certified counselor?
5. Did the parents initially lie about their handling of the situation to the police?
6. Did they say things in their Fox interview that are known to be untrue?
7. Was the police report obtained legally and not "leaked'?
So... why are people defending them so hard again?
1. Yes
2. They tried to deal with the problem in-house, as many parents would. When that didn't work, they turned to outside help, as many parents would.
3. Yes, and some were not.
4. We don't know. That information has not been made available.
5. We don't know. State Trooper Hutchens has some credibility issues. Plus this was years ago.
6. We don't know.
7. It was legally obtained, but its release still raises questions as the minors involved should have been given an unbreachable assurance of privacy.
People aren't necessarily defending the Duggars. Certainly they could have handled things better. But there are a lot of false things being said about what happened, and a lot we don't know. And it is appropriate to correct the falsehoods.
1. Yes
2. They tried to deal with the problem in-house, as many parents would. When that didn't work, they turned to outside help, as many parents would.
3. Yes, and some were not.
4. We don't know. That information has not been made available.
5. We don't know. State Trooper Hutchens has some credibility issues. Plus this was years ago.
6. We don't know.
7. It was legally obtained, but its release still raises questions as the minors involved should have been given an unbreachable assurance of privacy.
People aren't necessarily defending the Duggars. Certainly they could have handled things better. But there are a lot of false things being said about what happened, and a lot we don't know. And it is appropriate to correct the falsehoods.
LOL, when a white person is involved, we must investigate and not jump into conclusion. When a minority is involved, hang him.
1. Yes
2. They tried to deal with the problem in-house, as many parents would. When that didn't work, they turned to outside help, as many parents would.
3. Yes, and some were not. 4. We don't know. That information has not been made available. 5. We don't know. State Trooper Hutchens has some credibility issues. Plus this was years ago.
6. We don't know.
7. It was legally obtained, but its release still raises questions as the minors involved should have been given an unbreachable assurance of privacy.
People aren't necessarily defending the Duggars. Certainly they could have handled things better. But there are a lot of false things being said about what happened, and a lot we don't know. And it is appropriate to correct the falsehoods.
4. Counsellors are mandatory reporters, that's how we know neither the girls nor Josh received counselling.
5. If it was an official complaint to the police they too are mandatory reporters.
Okay, before this turns into an argument over timelines and details....
1. Did Josh Duggar molest his sisters?
2. Did the parents not tell anyone or get the kids help for over a year, until Josh repeated the behavior two more times that they know of?
3. Were some of the victims awake when it happened?
4. Did the children ever receive counseling from a certified counselor? Did the family turn down suggestions to go to a certified counselor?
5. Did the parents initially lie about their handling of the situation to the police?
6. Did they say things in their Fox interview that are known to be untrue?
7. Was the police report obtained legally and not "leaked'?
So... why are people defending them so hard again?
See, that's where you are confused. I'm not defending him. I'm showing people their errors when they state things that are are their opinions as facts. I've been crystal clear that he molested 5 girls.
1. Yes
2. No
3. Yes
4. Yes, No They clearly said that all of daughters who were victims had counseling.
5. No
6. No
7. As of yet undetermined.
Not really for the poster. He went down the line of new topics to type a rant about white people in each topic evenly. No-matter the topic.
He's probably a member of the faux "#TheMovement".
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