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Old 07-14-2015, 01:47 PM
 
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Is that a question? What about affirmative action? Is that constitutional?
Generally a sentence ending with a question mark indicates that the sentence is a question.

What do you mean by "affirmative action?" (see the question mark at the end...) Quotas were part and parcel to many "affirmative action" plans which when voluntarily established were determined to be unconstitutional. The current standard for what constitutes a constitutionally acceptable "affirmative action" program is complicated to say the least with a number of Court decisions allowing such programs in certain specific instances and disallowing them all together in others.

The bottom line is, unless you can establish a history of deliberate racial discrimination against white for no other reason than their race, the Court would be rather disinclined to see the constitutionality of such a program.
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Old 07-14-2015, 01:50 PM
 
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Ok, well it's the 3rd most popular in the U.S, so too bad. I work in sports merch, so pretty much everyone I come into contact with is a a sports fanatic.

9/10 watch the NFL
8/10 watch MLB
8/10 watch NCAA football
6/10 watch NCAA basketball
4/10 watch NHL
2/10 watch NBA

maybe it's popular in other parts of the world, but here MLB and NFL are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay bigger, and here in Michigan the NHL is way bigger.
The NFL , YEAH...it's bigger.

Proportionately, MLB is not bigger than the NBA. Not even close. NBA stars are bigger names than baseball stars and get far bigger endorsements too. A second tier NBA player is a bigger star in the sports culture than a first tier MLB star.

Baseball stadiums are half empty most of the time. Without the TV deals, MLB would be on life support. It's the only sports league in this country that needs foreign players to replenish its talent pool.

Baseball is pretty much dead in this country. It's no longer the national pastime.

And hockey isn't bigger than basketball in Michigan. That's nonsense. I'm a huge Red Wings fan...have been all my life. But there's a reason why hockey is played on some cable channel that you can barely find, while the NBA is on primetime.
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Old 07-14-2015, 01:58 PM
 
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Baseball is the thinking man's game. Yep, it is in decline. Not many of us thinkers left.
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Old 07-14-2015, 02:24 PM
 
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I know the motivation of the OP quite well. It's not unknown at all.

However, i agree with you to a point, but why single out the NBA? I can easily name tons of sports that aren't diverse whatsoever.
Yep.

I agree, it could be the NBA or a host of other sports.

I just find it interesting because I've previously commented on how when I go to math competitions in the area and athletic camps that I have seen for youths....the racial demographics are STARKLY different.

Fast forward and you see these same skewed demographics in both sports and professional programs.

However, whenever there is a story about a lack of certain ethnic groups especially in STEM fields (NPR was talking about it just this morning) that they were "kept out" but in sports it's the way it is because it's a meritocracy.

I just find that argument insulting. Steph Curry didn't learn to shoot like that without thousands of hours in the gym. Meanwhile you have lawsuits about too many Asians in NY magnet highschools and so forth as if being strong academically is somehow a random, accidental process but sports skills are not.
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Old 07-14-2015, 02:32 PM
 
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NFL has 68% of Black. How is that diversified?

"68%
With 1155 players, the black population of the NFL runs away with a 68% majority. In a distant second are the 470 white players who make up 28% of the league. The following three racial categories, Other, Asian/Pacific Islander and Hispanic, make up a combined 4.36% of the league.Sep 23, 2014"

NFL Census: Data on Players’ Race, Weight & Height | Heavy.com
"me lifeexplorer, me no good at read"

...seriously dude, in response to someone laughing at me for saying only black people WATCH the NBA (they claimed it was the 2nd most popular sport to watch in the world) I responded with why it wasn't the most popular in the US, in fact that it's the least where I'm from. Did this deviate from the OP's initial prompt? Yes, but seriously learn how to read something before you get all butthurt.
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Old 07-14-2015, 02:33 PM
 
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Baseball is the thinking man's game. Yep, it is in decline. Not many of us thinkers left.
I suppose just blaming "people getting stupider" is a convenient and easy alternative to recognizing that professional baseball has had a string of serious problems like imbalanced run-away payrolls, steroids, players not sticking with a team, huge influx of foreign players and let us not forget....the year they quit mid-season. A lot of baseballs decline has been self-inflicted.
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Old 07-14-2015, 02:34 PM
 
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The NFL , YEAH...it's bigger.

Proportionately, MLB is not bigger than the NBA. Not even close. NBA stars are bigger names than baseball stars and get far bigger endorsements too. A second tier NBA player is a bigger star in the sports culture than a first tier MLB star.

Baseball stadiums are half empty most of the time. Without the TV deals, MLB would be on life support. It's the only sports league in this country that needs foreign players to replenish its talent pool.

Baseball is pretty much dead in this country. It's no longer the national pastime.

And hockey isn't bigger than basketball in Michigan. That's nonsense. I'm a huge Red Wings fan...have been all my life. But there's a reason why hockey is played on some cable channel that you can barely find, while the NBA is on primetime.
Well the in my experience with people (granted this is 20-60 year old middle-upper class white males) NBA is by faaar the least popular. I just don't know a single person who watches the NBA, while pretty much every single person I know watches the NFL and the MLB.
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Old 07-14-2015, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Inland Northwest
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I suppose just blaming "people getting stupider" is a convenient and easy alternative to recognizing that professional baseball has had a string of serious problems like imbalanced run-away payrolls, steroids, players not sticking with a team, huge influx of foreign players and let us not forget....the year they quit mid-season. A lot of baseballs decline has been self-inflicted.
Not to mention how the "thinking men" of baseball missed the whole steroid era. Genius, one and all.
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Old 07-14-2015, 02:52 PM
 
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Should there be an affirmative action program for slots on NBA teams for token whites who can't jump??
Oh hell NO and, I'm a white dude. So the NBA's mostly "Black", big deal. It's because the players can play and play well.
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Old 07-14-2015, 03:10 PM
 
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Baseball is the thinking man's game. Yep, it is in decline. Not many of us thinkers left.
I played baseball and there wasn't a hell of a lot of thinking required.

Ball thrown, ball hit, ball caught, ball thrown... not exactly rocket science.
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