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View Poll Results: Who Was More at Fault???
Sandra 32 60.38%
Police 17 32.08%
I can't choose. They are exactly equally at fault. 4 7.55%
Voters: 53. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-23-2015, 11:33 AM
 
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doesn't matter what she said, this cop saw an out of town license plate, made a u-turn and harassed this woman.

cops deal with all types of people yet for some reason a chosen few like to take it to the extreme instead of handing out a ticket and going on their way.

was she in the right to act out and have an attitude? of course not but cops are used to seeing people get an attitude when ticketed for minor infractions.

 
Old 07-23-2015, 11:35 AM
 
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The Heritage Foundation and many other right leaning organizations have long called for police reform. These conservative groups oppose civil asset forfeiture, no-knock warrants and more, this is why making broad generalizations of anything is foolish.
Nonsense, they support it theoretically, just like they supported Health reform in theory, but when Democrats embraced Romneycare, they completely abandoned their support the heritage foundation. Just like conservative supported a carbon tax to fight global warming, but completely abandoned it when Democrats took up the mantle.

conservatives in think tanks can run whatever mental exercises they please, but where the rubber meets the road in the real world, it's conservatives out there saying hey what happened to Eric Garner was his fault, what happened to Tamir Rice was his fault, what happened to John Crawford was his fault, what happened to Walter Scott was his fault, and protesting the police is wrong and promotes hatred of the police.

This is the conservative position.

In support of police violence against Americans. Saying well some conservatives in a think tank says this has about as much relevance as showing that same think tank supported a health care reform that they now reject.
 
Old 07-23-2015, 11:35 AM
 
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the supreme court also ruled that an officer can order the driver of a lawfully stopped vehicle to get out of the car.
Indeed it has. She got out of the car but there was no justification for him asking her in the first place. Having the power and abusing that power are very different things. Just because he can does not mean he should.
 
Old 07-23-2015, 11:37 AM
 
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Sorry. All your link shows is what the family said the DA said. I'd rather hear from the DA's office ... like this:


Waller Co. DA: Additional testing possible in Bland case
They are playing on semantics. What they say doesn't matter, that is only obfuscation
and spin control ! The fact remains they want additional testing, AFTER they completed
the autopsy.. whether it's additional testing or an incomplete/flawed first autopsy, there
is no difference except descriptive language which the country has changed only to
avoid further legal liability - which they are certainly going to be confronted with !!!!!!!

How depressed Sandra was a YEAR AGO because of her miscarriage has absolutely
nothing to do with her death in the hands of the county jail. If they determined she
died from suicide (considering the tiny number of possible ways commitable while in
custody), you can bet your bottom dollar they would be screaming it from
the rooftops to save their butts but they aren't. It smells like fish wrap.
The poor woman was abused and quite possibly manslaughtered by the police.
Why defend them ? How do you know during one of the surveillance lapses that she
wasn't forced to perform oral sex on multiple officers and given a little too much sedation ?
 
Old 07-23-2015, 11:38 AM
 
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End of story? As we all know the situation did not come to a halt once he exhibited unprofessionalism.

Clearly you practice and implement splitting: there is no point in attempting to debate with you. There are very few absolutes in this world my friend.
As you note yourself he was unprofessional. There should be no justifications for his actions after that point. The event escalated because he was unprofessional. His job requirement is to be professional. She does not have to stop herself from having a natural reaction to an upsetting situation and he should not have provoked it further.
 
Old 07-23-2015, 11:39 AM
 
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doesn't matter what she said, this cop saw an out of town license plate, made a u-turn and harassed this woman.

cops deal with all types of people yet for some reason a chosen few like to take it to the extreme instead of handing out a ticket and going on their way.

was she in the right to act out and have an attitude? of course not but cops are used to seeing people get an attitude when ticketed for minor infractions.
She ran a stop sign, that's why he spun around and tailed her, THEN she did ANOTHER illegal move.

DPS Dashcam Reveals Real Reason for Sandra Bland Traffic Stop, Vindicates Trooper
 
Old 07-23-2015, 11:40 AM
 
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As you note yourself he was unprofessional. There should be no justifications for his actions after that point. The event escalated because he was unprofessional. His job requirement is to be professional. She does not have to stop herself from having a natural reaction to an upsetting situation and he should not have provoked it further.
Just stop already your posts are getting wacky. She ran a stop sign right in front of him then did another illegal move..Just stop already. The officer is no position to de-escalate anything. If you escalate something on a cop he has every right to take it even further. You will lose that on the street everytime.
 
Old 07-23-2015, 11:42 AM
 
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They are playing on semantics. What they say doesn't matter, that is only obfuscation
and spin control ! The fact remains they want additional testing, AFTER they completed
the autopsy.. whether it's additional testing or an incomplete/flawed first autopsy, there
is no difference except descriptive language which the country has changed only to
avoid further legal liability - which they are certainly going to be confronted with !!!!!!!

How depressed Sandra was a YEAR AGO because of her miscarriage has absolutely
nothing to do with her death in the hands of the county jail. If they determined she
died from suicide (considering the tiny number of possible ways commitable while in
custody), you can bet your bottom dollar they would be screaming it from
the rooftops to save their butts but they aren't. It smells like fish wrap.
The poor woman was abused and quite possibly manslaughtered by the police.
Why defend them ? How do you know during one of the surveillance lapses that she
wasn't forced to perform oral sex on multiple officers and given a little too much sedation ?

OMG.. Just listen to these wacky posts!!!! It's pure insanity!!!
 
Old 07-23-2015, 11:44 AM
 
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the supreme court also ruled that an officer can order the driver of a lawfully stopped vehicle to get out of the car.
And, the order can be enforced with DEATH!
 
Old 07-23-2015, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Is that always the order? Could you get your photo THEN fingerprinted? Or have your personal items taken away before they do an inmate ID?

Maybe.

My point is that there maybe a logical explanation for her to have orange-is-the-new-black on in her mugshot ... and not because Bland is dead in the photo.
I too find the theory that she was dead in the photo to be beyond reasonable. Nonetheless, there was a break in protocol that will have to be explained, along with the 30 gallon trash bin in the cell. Are there 30 gallon trash bins in all cells?

I also do not understand why she, friends or family did not come up with $500 bail money. ( I have no idea how bail actually works, anywhere ). She and her immediate family appear to be professionals. I would think that this would be the first order of business.
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