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Old 07-30-2015, 12:03 PM
 
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Progressives want complete globalism which includes open borders. If he doesn't support this he will NOT be the nominee.
So, that's the only difference? Meanwhile, he is the only candidate on the left who is passionately speaking out about the socialist agenda that they have all quietly craved all these years. That is going to count for something, especially with Hillary Clinton refusing to answer even the simplest questions and apparently taking the Democratic nomination for granted even more than Barack Obama ever did.

Don't count him out. Feel the Bern!
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Old 07-30-2015, 12:04 PM
 
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Borders are seen as a barrier to profits for the corporate elite. They care about profits, not America.
You are correct and Progressives want complete Globalism. Due to Globalism, corporation are run by multinational shareholders that don't care about the workers of those corps. They are just warm bodies living in a country they care nothing for so in their eyes they are expendable. If Bernie doesn't support this idea he WILL NOT be the Dem candidate.
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Old 07-30-2015, 12:06 PM
 
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So, that's the only difference? Meanwhile, he is the only candidate on the left who is passionately speaking out about the socialist agenda that they have all quietly craved all these years. That is going to count for something, especially with Hillary Clinton refusing to answer even the simplest questions and apparently taking the Democratic nomination for granted even more than Barack Obama ever did.

Don't count him out. Feel the Bern!
The voters don't get to decide, if you think that you are sadly mistaken. The global elites run the show, not the voters. Bernie won't even make it through the primary, just like Trump won't. The elites want either Hillary or Jeb, they are both about the same and they represent the global elite.
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Old 07-30-2015, 12:23 PM
 
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The voters don't get to decide, if you think that you are sadly mistaken. The global elites run the show, not the voters. Bernie won't even make it through the primary, just like Trump won't. The elites want either Hillary or Jeb, they are both about the same and they represent the global elite.
If we dont organize and vote, then yes, the billionaire class will win, Dbones. But we do have the vote, and they hate it. They are powerful, but they know they are not as powerful as they try to convince people they are. If they succeed in dividing us, they win. The struggle for $15 wage shows what can be achieved. Maybe you are against that, or maybe you support it, but it regardless, it is an important skirmish that is being won against the will of the corporate elite. It shows the power of organizing and fighting back. People are tired of getting kicked out on the street and see their job shipped to some dictatorship in the third world.

The fight can be won. But it requires organizing and rallying around an agenda for the American people. No one should be into the propaganda that they Koch brothers want us all to believe to discourage people.
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Old 07-30-2015, 12:34 PM
 
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If we dont organize and vote, then yes, the billionaire class will win, Dbones. But we do have the vote, and they hate it. They are powerful, but they know they are not as powerful as they try to convince people they are. If they succeed in dividing us, they win. The struggle for $15 wage shows what can be achieved. Maybe you are against that, or maybe you support it, but it regardless, it is an important skirmish that is being won against the will of the corporate elite. It shows the power of organizing and fighting back. People are tired of getting kicked out on the street and see their job shipped to some dictatorship in the third world.

The fight can be won. But it requires organizing and rallying around an agenda for the American people. No one should be into the propaganda that they Koch brothers want us all to believe to discourage people.
You obviously have already bought all the propaganda they are selling you. Sanders won't be the pick I guarantee you that. It will be whoever the establishment in both parties wants. Sander's view goes against that as does Trump's. They will not make it. Wait and see.
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