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Old 08-27-2015, 09:39 PM
 
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I seem to remember sea levels have risen and decline in past. In fact many desserts and even the grand cannon were formed by water. Man wasn't even around to have anything to do with it either.

 
Old 08-27-2015, 10:08 PM
 
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I seem to remember sea levels have risen and decline in past. In fact many desserts and even the grand cannon were formed by water. Man wasn't even around to have anything to do with it either.
I seem to remember forest fires have occurred naturally in the past when humans weren't around to start them. So logically, that means humans cannot possibly start forest fires today.

I seem to remember that atmospheric C02 levels have risen and declined naturally in the past. So logically that means that humans can't have anything to do with the rising levels of C02 in the atmosphere in the past 100 years.

Oh wait....
 
Old 08-27-2015, 10:08 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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I seem to remember sea levels have risen and decline in past. In fact many desserts and even the grand cannon were formed by water. Man wasn't even around to have anything to do with it either.
How do you know? Where you around then? It amazes me how deniers cherry pick science....
 
Old 08-27-2015, 10:15 PM
 
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Why do you people think that you can get away with false info? It took two seconds to prove you wrong....

Sea level is rising at an increasing rate. With the majority of Americans living in coastal states, rising water levels can have potentially large impacts. There is strong evidence that global sea level is now rising at an increased rate and will continue to rise during this century. Is sea level rising?
You're mistaking sinking lands for rising waters. Newtok, AK is sinking. The San Joaquin River delta is sinking. (Phoenix is sinking too (but for your edification that's inland).) Hawai`i (the big island) is sinking. So's Maui.

The crust doesn't only move laterally.


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Huge chunk of ice just broke off the Jakobshavn glacier in Greenland....
Yes, August temperatures can do that.


Sounds kind of chilly in the Hudson Bay this summer:
_"CCGS Amundsen re-routed to Hudson Bay to help with heavy ice"_
"Worst ice conditions in 20 years force change of plans to icebreaker research program"

cbc.ca/news/canada/north/ccgs-amundsen-re-routed-to-hudson-bay-to-help-with-heavy-ice-1.3162900

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Old 08-27-2015, 10:22 PM
 
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You're mistaking sinking lands for rising waters. Newtok, AK is sinking. The San Joaquin River delta is sinking. (Phoenix is sinking too (but for your edification that's inland).)

The crust doesn't only move laterally.
One piece of the puzzle is not the whole puzzle. Other pieces are thermal expansion of warming oceans and melting glaciers and land ice.
 
Old 08-27-2015, 10:24 PM
 
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beach front purchases are not a good pick.
 
Old 08-27-2015, 10:30 PM
 
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The sea level always rises during Inter-Glacial Periods.

How is this Inter-Glacial Period different than the previous 8 Inter-Glacial Periods? Aside from the Earth's average temperature being colder, nothing yet.
Aren't you forgetting something important? 'Greenhouse' gas levels.

And what effects do changes in 'greenhouse' gas levels have on glaciation/deglaciation?

Watch and learn:

The short 24 minute lecture below on the history of earth's climate is from the National Academy of Sciences 2015 Symposium by Professor Richard Alley - Geoscientist/Glaciologist. Anyone who has seen ice core graphs, has probably seen graphs based on his work.

Professor Richard Alley - Curriculum Vitae
http://www.geosc.psu.edu/sites/defau...long_aug13.pdf



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujkcTZZlikg

And what seems to be most important to some people on this forum - Alley is a Republican.
 
Old 08-27-2015, 10:36 PM
 
Location: So. of Rosarito, Baja, Mexico
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Signal Hill Calif just north of Long Beach had a lot of oil drilling and was pumping oil in the early 1930's. About 20 years later Long Beach showed to be sinking based upon the ocean high tide rising a little each year.

One smart Engineer figured out that since oil was being removed the city was over some pockets and a solution was to fill those pockets thus they started to pump sea water into the dry wells and the city stopped sinking.

I recall reading about the problem back then as I had to drive by those oil rigs every so often going to work (short cut to Long Beach)
 
Old 08-27-2015, 10:39 PM
 
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One piece of the puzzle is not the whole puzzle. Other pieces are thermal expansion of warming oceans and melting glaciers and land ice.
And a Ring of Fire and a Mid-Atlantic Ridge that opens up here, closes there, spitting fire, shutting it off, without terrestrial observers ever being the wiser. Changes in convection as the poles shift....

(What's that? East Anglia doesn't know how to model any of that, which explains why their laughable models are always wrong?)
 
Old 08-27-2015, 10:50 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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It's not that simple.....The world’s oceans have risen overall about 8 inches in the past century. Also post glacial rebound has to be considered... Post-glacial rebound

Also Hawaii is not sinking and is not immune to sea level rise. Experts say rising sea levels pose major threat to Hawaii | KHON2

NEWTOK, ALASKA

Alaska’s climate is getting hotter—and quickly. During the past 50 years, the state has warmed at more than twice the rate of the rest of the United States. Now the permafrost is melting. The foundation under Newtok is crumbling, as are the village’s buildings. The old school and the community hall have buckled and started to sink into the muddy earth.

[MOD CUT/copyright violation] Alaskan village stands on leading edge of climate change

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