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Old 09-01-2015, 12:35 AM
 
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There's actually logic in calling Boulder Dam Hoover Dam. Hoover had been an engineer and had worked on the establishment of water policies in the semi-arid and arid West before becoming President.

There is no such logic for naming Denali Mount McKinley. President McKinley had NOTHING to do with Alaska.
What did George Washington have to do with Washington State?
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Old 09-01-2015, 12:42 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Why would that surprise you? Mt Hood's name isn't Wy'east, it's Mt. Hood. If you want to be politically correct, so be it. But you are wrong. The proper name is Mt. Hood.
Said who?

And why is any place name necessarily forever?
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Old 09-01-2015, 12:49 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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What did George Washington have to do with Washington State?
You have become obsessed with this topic simply because President Obama's administration made it happen. Frankly, you're being childish. Most presidents name or rename things. Including Republicans (or perhaps you don't remember the change from Washington National Airport to Ronald Reagan National Airport. I lived in northern Virginia at the time, and people hated that change, and fought it tooth and nail. Now I could have seen naming it after Reagan if the last we saw of him was flying out of that airport.
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Old 09-01-2015, 12:56 AM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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People don't seem to realize that and are mistaking returning it to the name used by the native Americans and other Alaskans is somehow caving to "political correctness". In conservative logic it is always preferable to be ignorant over being politically correct.
Conservative logic is just that... logic. Liberalism is illogical.
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Old 09-01-2015, 01:21 AM
 
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You have become obsessed with this topic simply because President Obama's administration made it happen. Frankly, you're being childish. Most presidents name or rename things. Including Republicans (or perhaps you don't remember the change from Washington National Airport to Ronald Reagan National Airport. I lived in northern Virginia at the time, and people hated that change, and fought it tooth and nail. Now I could have seen naming it after Reagan if the last we saw of him was flying out of that airport.
All I did was ask why Washington State is named after George Washington, who had nothing to do with that state.

I was replying to somebody who insisted that Mount McKinley in Alaska should not have been named after President McKinley because President McKinley had nothing to do with Alaska.

My pointing all of that out seems to bother you a lot.

I can't think why.
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Old 09-01-2015, 01:24 AM
 
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Surely the relevant Alaskan Native Americans had an alphabet of their own.

If we are going to be "authentic," we should use that alphabet instead of our own.

Anything less would be alphabetic imperialism.
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Old 09-01-2015, 01:37 AM
 
Location: Kenai, AK
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Isn't "Denali" also incorrect?

Did Native Americans use our alphabet or something different?

It was still pronounced Denali, we just romanized the spelling so we could read it better. Just like Japanese, romanized Japanese is called Romaji so non-japanese readers could sound out the words instead of reading it in kanji/furigana or hiragana/katakana. In the Koyukon language, it is called Denali. The Athabaskans lived in proximity of the mountain and Koyukon was there language. Denali is correct since the pronunciation still has its meaning.

Also, Alaskan Natives mostly did not have a written language, it was only recently in history has a written language been developed in many of the native languages.

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Old 09-01-2015, 04:19 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Personally I like to refer to it as "Frisco". Drives the locals up a wall.
Yes, it sure does!

Workingclasshero: I Googled Yerba Buena ... I did not find that Wiki page. I stand corrected.
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Old 09-01-2015, 04:57 AM
 
Location: Upstate
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There's actually logic in calling Boulder Dam Hoover Dam. Hoover had been an engineer and had worked on the establishment of water policies in the semi-arid and arid West before becoming President.

There is no such logic for naming Denali Mount McKinley. President McKinley had NOTHING to do with Alaska.
I have to give the president credit on this one. Renaming the mountain to it's original name was the right thing to do. Just because some prospector named it after McKinley was campaigning for the executive office. Sadly McKinley was assassinated and does dignify having something named after him...Ohio has many parks or possibly a major airport that could be renamed.
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Old 09-01-2015, 04:58 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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Mt. McKinley at over 20,000 feet was named for a man that never visited Alaska and now Obama will officially give the mountain back it's original name. Denali, Meaning "Great one or High one".

It is about time this happened.

In Alaska, Obama to rename tallest U.S. peak - CNNPolitics.com
William McKinley should have changed his name to Caitlyn.
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