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Originally Posted by pknopp
Indeed that is possible. But yes, that is my point. These are general idea's, not policy or law.
And my problem with that is that a lot of republicans have been elected on general ideas.
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And those who argue for a suffocating government. Neither are correct.
I completely agree, however I dont see the opposite being advocated. that could be my own bias, but i just dont see it.
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Most who argue that also argue a replacement.
the few examples I have seen of a replacement is simply going back to the old ways(higher import tax), which isnt going to work either.
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I'd start with the wars and foreign aid.
Total US foreign aid last year was 40.1 billion, the troops in Afganistan was 90 billion( the info im looking at is on a graph in increments of 10, so it could be a little more, or less).
cutting both of those things is only about 10% of the amount you need.
Ron Paul, Pat Buchanan and others have rightfully stated there have been negative consequences from our midadventures in foreign lands. To quote Buchanan "Terrorism is the price of empire".
And my problem with that is that a lot of republicans have been elected on general ideas.
We aren't speaking about Republicans. On top of that, Obama had a ton of great general ideas, that he never followed up on.
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I completely agree, however I dont see the opposite being advocated. that could be my own bias, but i just dont see it.
CLose enough.
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the few examples I have seen of a replacement is simply going back to the old ways(higher import tax), which isnt going to work either.
I have no idea if it would work but it seems to me many argue for a consumption tax.
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Total US foreign aid last year was 40.1 billion, the troops in Afganistan was 90 billion( the info im looking at is on a graph in increments of 10, so it could be a little more, or less).
cutting both of those things is only about 10% of the amount you need.
It's also not very inclusive. We have bases everywhere. We are still engaged in the war in Iraq also.
I would then start on the waste and abuse that is rampant in all government programs.
Did you answer the question? You understand the relevance.
What? It's apples and oranges. You can say an action conducted under an entirely different form of government has any relevance to US law, US law is not based on the NAP. It amazing how you do not understand how you pretty much trumped/violate the NAP with another moral imperative, i.e. justice, not to mention doing it illogical as as to say you did not violate the NAP.
What? It's apples and oranges. You can say an action conducted under an entirely different form of government has any relevance to US law, US law is not based on the NAP. It amazing how you do not understand how you pretty much trumped/violate the NAP with another moral imperative, i.e. justice, not to mention doing it illogical as as to say you did not violate the NAP.
It's not, but you can't take one statement out of context with the rest. If you could the 1st amendment would allow for someone's free speech to threaten someone with harm.
Currently, the most vocal libertarians incessantly talk about anarcho-capitalism along with other extreme libertarian "ideas" (by American political and economic standards).
Yes and what hurts their case is they make it seem like any other libertarian whether it is the Pauls, Gary Johnson, presidential candidate Esteban Oliverez and any other candidates. These libertarians just cheerlead failure. What a way to want to see the world change.
As for Ron Paul himself, his issue is he has radical ideas such as ending the FED which we don't know if it is a good idea or not. Anytime it is between the devil you know vs. the devil you don't, I don't know about you but I'd rather go to the devil you know.
Ron Paul's "crazy" ideas about government (no income tax, legal prositution, legal drugs, formally declared wars, etc.) were the norm in this country for most of its existence. Why do people act like he's crazy?
He's not crazy. It is very difficult for most people to understand freedom because they have lived all their lives under the control of Big Government. So they don't know what freedom is. They think Big Government is normal.
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