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Old 09-15-2015, 08:10 PM
 
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You mean the guy who wants to delete most of the federal government? Besides, when most of the people who support you are the AC's...I mean....come on.
Again....claims are just that.
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Old 09-15-2015, 08:11 PM
 
Location: Texas
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The problem with Ron Paul is his ideas and policies is that they are harmful to all but the few Americans who live in barren wide open spaces like West Texas where if you want to ignore other people, do what you please or not pay for projects that keep a metropolitan area alive there are no consequences! For the large majority of Americans Paul's ideas and those of his son and heir are bad news!
You mean like stay out of foreign wars and protect the borders like the Constitution says and not manipulate the economy so as to avoid the government induced booms and busts? THAT is harmful to most Americans?
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Old 09-15-2015, 08:11 PM
 
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Libertarians DO NOT argue for no government.
Indeed! We want government to secure our property.
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Old 09-15-2015, 08:11 PM
 
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A government so small that it can not effectively govern is "no government".

I dont think there are actually that many people who want a government that small, but its a good talking point for the "small government" types.
"So small" is right up there with general claims based upon nothing.
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Old 09-15-2015, 08:14 PM
 
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Again....claims are just that.
I get it, you can't argue against those "claims". Why are you posting on an internet message forum?
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Old 09-15-2015, 08:16 PM
 
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I get it, you can't argue against those "claims". Why are you posting on an internet message forum?
I can't. There were none provided.
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Old 09-15-2015, 08:16 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Because Ron Paul is an economic delinquent. If you really listen to him you will notice just how stupid he is. You ever seen that video he posted about the economic end times? The guy doesn't even understand inflation
The economists he follows told us the dot com boom and bust would happen. they also told us the housing boom and bust would happen. And they were right. Inflation is the increase in the money supply, not some made up government figure that boobus falls for.
He's not the stupid one here.
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Old 09-15-2015, 08:18 PM
 
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We, the members of the Libertarian Party, challenge the cult of the omnipotent state and defend the rights of the individual.

We hold that all individuals have the right to exercise sole dominion over their own lives, and have the right to live in whatever manner they choose, so long as they do not forcibly interfere with the equal right of others to live in whatever manner they choose.

Governments throughout history have regularly operated on the opposite principle, that the State has the right to dispose of the lives of individuals and the fruits of their labor. Even within the United States, all political parties other than our own grant to government the right to regulate the lives of individuals and seize the fruits of their labor without their consent.

We, on the contrary, deny the right of any government to do these things, and hold that where governments exist, they must not violate the rights of any individual: namely, (1) the right to life -- accordingly we support the prohibition of the initiation of physical force against others; (2) the right to liberty of speech and action -- accordingly we oppose all attempts by government to abridge the freedom of speech and press, as well as government censorship in any form; and (3) the right to property -- accordingly we oppose all government interference with private property, such as confiscation, nationalization, and eminent domain, and support the prohibition of robbery, trespass, fraud, and misrepresentation.

Since governments, when instituted, must not violate individual rights, we oppose all interference by government in the areas of voluntary and contractual relations among individuals. People should not be forced to sacrifice their lives and property for the benefit of others. They should be left free by government to deal with one another as free traders; and the resultant economic system, the only one compatible with the protection of individual rights, is the free market.

Platform | Libertarian Party
I mean...just read that. The government can not initiate force against an individual to protect its citizens.
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Old 09-15-2015, 08:18 PM
 
Location: St. Louis
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Ron Paul's "crazy" ideas about government (no income tax, legal prositution, legal drugs, formally declared wars, etc.) were the norm in this country for most of its existence. Why do people act like he's crazy?
I'd go for his proposal to eliminate the EPA. Agree?
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Old 09-15-2015, 08:19 PM
 
Location: Texas
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His gold standard speel is economic non sense.
Is that why the dollars purchasing power held up when we were on the gold standard compared to now?

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