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Snowden has done more to help Americans fight a tyrannical government than anyone in the past 200 years. Here is a very good movie that documents the entire event. I highly recommend it, but it will scare the sh1t out of you. Our government is way more powerful and intrusive than most people think. And Obama does his usual lying and covering up. POS Obama is the most deceitful leader in the history of the earth.
I would want to see what a jury of my peers would have to say if it is leaking national secrets. If he is such a hero as people would think he is on here, it would be easy enough to get a jury of his peers to be a hung jury a time or two, enough to offer a plea. Face it, he's a coward regardless if he is a hero or not. Drop the heroworship of this coward.
You don't speak from fact.
Snowden said he would welcome a trial of any "charges?" brought against him by the Obama Administration in open court judged by a jury of his peers as is his right by the US Constitution.
Problem: the DOJ won't allow it. They will handle it like Bradly Manning where he thrown under the jail for a few years before it even makes it's way to court.
The problem isn't Snowden. The problem is an Administration that considers the US Constitution an annoyance to be worked around.
That's so funny. You believe all that Government Gibberish? Some folks are soooo easy, its like shooting fish in a barrel. They will believe anything they are told.
First they denied spying. Then they said they did spy, but not on us. Then they said yes, they did spy on us, but only kept phone numbers. Then they disciplined employees for listening in on spouses or girl and boy friends conversations. They lied about everything, but chose you, to tell the real "truth" too, right?
ROTFLMAO
What a perfect example of a know-it-all civilian loaded up with opinions and completely devoid of facts. (Sigh.)
If you were read into the program and understood how it was operated, you'd understand it. But you weren't, so you don't. Those who are can't discuss it. It's what you refer to as 'Government Gibberish." (We call it "intelligence oversight" and the law. Google it.) It's why all three branches of government approved the program. (Yup. Including the judicial branch.)
That's one of the problems with Snowden. He wasn't read into the program, so he didn't understand it. Come to think of it, he wasn't read into any programs - he was the equivalent of a contract computer janitor.
(Proving once again that the ones you have to pay particular attention to are the janitors and IT techs and copier repairmen and delivery people - all the ones who routinely access intel sites but aren't cleared for what's going on there. David Crawford wrote a book about it back in 1983 - it's called "Volunteers.")
DOJ would love to get their hands on Snowden. The problem is, he has a ton of more material that hasn't been released yet and co-conspirators who have threatened to release it if he is captured. (One was arrested at Heathrow with 58,000 classified pieces in his possession.) Hence, Treadstone.
When you can accurately answer this question, you will know enough about the program to discuss it: What two pieces of paper are required before the metadata can be tied to an actual US person, and what is required for the second piece of paper to issue?
Snowden is brilliant, and an American Hero. There is no evidence that he sold any information to foreign Governments. People that claim that are liars and make things up to suit their own opinions.
Snowden did not look at anything he was not privy to. People that claim that are lying, since the fact is, if he was NOT privy to it, he would NOT have been able to access it, so that claim is false. He got into what he had authority to get into.
What we have heard from the Government about Snowden is nothing more than a pack of lies made up for Damage Control. They have lied about everything from the beginning to the present. From denying the program existed, to lying about what was being spied on.
Next it was a lie that he was only a computer operator, and had no important access. When he proved he did, then they said he had "Administrators" or Top clearances to all files. They lied over and over. Snowden is a true Patriot, and will go down in History as such.
uhm snowden was an IT tech..he ILLEGALLY stole information he was not privy to..his "admin' access is so he can FIX computers and network issues....same as the IT guys that work with me, they have 'access' to everything for FIXING PURPOSES, not actual access as in they work and draft and edit those sop/policies/write papers etc
snowdens illegal leaks that he has SOLD to foreign entities has cost USA Tech companies billions......The leaked NSA documents not only placed government employees at risk, but also impacted large American corporations like Boeing.....China also opened an initiative called De-IOE, which “stands for IBM, Oracle and EMC— to convince its state-owned banks to stop buying from these U.S. tech giants.”
sorry I dont consider a liar a hero
I dont consider a thief a hero
I dont consider a traitor a hero
I do not believe our "Intelligence" agencies need to operate in secret. Secrecy is the key to all tyrannies. Everything should be openly accessible to anyone that wants to know. I do not mean the NSA should stop eavesdropping on conversations but to keep doing that and telling everyone they are. This should not only apply to government but to business ass well.
Secrecy is the basis of criminality. allowing the potential victim to know what the potential thieves are planning is the key to remaining free of thieves.
For example if our intelligence agencies said that they had listened in on the planning of the 9/11 attacks and here is what they know about the attack and that a lot of Saudi citizens are involved do you really think the attack could have happened? Not very likely.
Snowden said he would welcome a trial of any "charges?" brought against him by the Obama Administration in open court judged by a jury of his peers as is his right by the US Constitution.
Problem: the DOJ won't allow it. They will handle it like Bradly Manning where he thrown under the jail for a few years before it even makes it's way to court.
The problem isn't Snowden. The problem is an Administration that considers the US Constitution an annoyance to be worked around.
Snowden won't be allowed to be arrested to face his charges, that is the issue. His words and his actions state two different forces and you knew that but because he stood up for individual liberties, you are fine with it.
I agree the administration is the problem but they choose between individual liberties and saving the population. It may not have stopped the Boston Marathon bombing BUT it helped create a case against them when put to trial.
Snowden is a hero on the left. Wtf are y'all talking about. The far left loves snowden. The right wing and and establishment center hate snowden . that's their job. Their job is to protect government secrets and snowden made them look like keystone cops. Dr King and Malcolm X and even ALi were hated NY the Right as well. History will frame Snowden as the Hero after the last soldier returns from Iraq Iran Syria and Afghanistan.
Snowden is a hero on the left. Wtf are y'all talking about. The far left loves snowden. The right wing and and establishment center hate snowden . that's their job. Their job is to protect government secrets and snowden made them look like keystone cops. Dr King and Malcolm X and even ALi were hated NY the Right as well. History will frame Snowden as the Hero after the last soldier returns from Iraq Iran Syria and Afghanistan.
You mean the far left and right wing libertarians right?
Half right Snowden is a hero
Obama is probably the most effective president since jfk
Too bad he is a spendthrift but that makes him a true modern American doesn't it?
Obama is probably the most effective president since jfk
I think you must have made a typo because nobody capable of critical thinking would say this. No doubt you meant this instead.
Obama is the most ineffective president in the last 100 years.
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