Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 10-01-2015, 09:59 PM
 
6,940 posts, read 9,683,943 times
Reputation: 3153

Advertisements

How can you call yourself a constitutionalist if you want to deprive mentally ill citizens their right to bear arms? Isn't that gun regulation in itself?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 10-01-2015, 10:16 PM
 
25,849 posts, read 16,540,341 times
Reputation: 16028
I don't know, do you think it's a drunk's right to drive a car?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-01-2015, 10:32 PM
 
6,940 posts, read 9,683,943 times
Reputation: 3153
Quote:
Originally Posted by PullMyFinger View Post
I don't know, do you think it's a drunk's right to drive a car?
Driving is a privilege, not a right. Remember?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-01-2015, 10:39 PM
 
3,804 posts, read 6,175,515 times
Reputation: 3339
Quote:
Originally Posted by knowledgeiskey View Post
How can you call yourself a constitutionalist if you want to deprive mentally ill citizens their right to bear arms? Isn't that gun regulation in itself?
Lacking the mental faculty to follow regulations makes it difficult to consider it possible for the mentally impaired to be well regulated. This is different from someone who is capable of following regulations but refuses to.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-01-2015, 10:39 PM
 
4,571 posts, read 3,522,129 times
Reputation: 3261
Once again, the op misses the irony of his username.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-01-2015, 10:39 PM
 
Location: Honolulu
518 posts, read 764,553 times
Reputation: 592
I think we should listen to the mental health professionals opinions.

Sometimes the 2nd amendment craze goes a bit insane. The NRA used to be about gun safety and responsible ownership. Now any regulation is painted as the burning of the constitution.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-01-2015, 10:58 PM
mm4
 
5,711 posts, read 3,981,123 times
Reputation: 1941
Quote:
Originally Posted by AuburnAL View Post
Lacking the mental faculty to follow regulations makes it difficult to consider it possible for the mentally impaired to be well regulated. This is different from someone who is capable of following regulations but refuses to.
That's not what the Founders meant by "regulated." It's archaic for "regularized," i.e., standard, ubiquitous, universal, everywhere.

"I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for a few public officials."
George Mason, in Debates in Virginia Convention on Ratification of the Constitution, Elliot, Vol. 3, June 16, 1788

"Whereas civil-rulers, not having their duty to the people duly before them, may attempt to tyrannize, and as military forces, which must be occasionally raised to defend our country, might pervert their power to the injury of their fellow citizens, the people are confirmed by the article in their right to keep and bear their private arms."
Tench Coxe, in Remarks on the First Part of the Amendments to the Federal Constitution

"The best we can hope for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed."
Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers at 184-188


Quote:
Originally Posted by ginmqi View Post
I think we should listen to the mental health professionals opinions.
Curious. To the confused, troubled souls who enter the field to work out their own neuroses-ridden pasts, hoping for resolution to their angst-ridden formative years.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-01-2015, 11:02 PM
 
Location: Purgatory
6,395 posts, read 6,282,580 times
Reputation: 9924
Quote:
Originally Posted by ginmqi View Post
I think we should listen to the mental health professionals opinions.

Sometimes the 2nd amendment craze goes a bit insane. The NRA used to be about gun safety and responsible ownership. Now any regulation is painted as the burning of the constitution.
^ THIS

It is your right to own a MUSKET.


And no, i DO NOT think the founding fathers, as smart as they were, ever considered citizens owning automated weapons to the point of machine guns.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-01-2015, 11:03 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
12,287 posts, read 9,827,388 times
Reputation: 6509
Those with mental health issues are treated as second class citizens on the forum and in society. No one seems to care about their rights. If it was up to many on this forum they would be inststutionaled and forced medicated to keep them out of society.

It is really sad how some great others because they are different.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-01-2015, 11:06 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
10,216 posts, read 8,122,688 times
Reputation: 2037
Let's see if the gun aficionados can twist this too.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:00 PM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top