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Hmmm, maybe because in this country, we protect the rights of minority groups, not majority group. Not fair? The majority group doesn't need protection - if they do, it is from other members of majority group who promulgate these laws and regulations, not the minority groups that don't have the voting power to effectuate such laws and regulations. In other words, blame other Christians that made these regs and rulings.
Mick
That button will never get pushed.
Why?
Because Muslims seem to stand up to bullies in a very brutal way.... Pretty sure the double standard we see here, is based upon history of a religion of passive tolerance, to one that has aggressive hate...........
Who you going to fear the most and stay out of their way?
In this case, we are not talking about "real" rights. These are made-up rights. Sexual perversion does not deserve to be protected by law, and no one should be forced to be a party to it. THAT is in conflict with someone else's right, which is a genuine right that is guaranteed by the Constitution.
Sorry, but the law is wrong here.
Well now we are getting to the real core of the discussion, gays are sinners. I imagine the point of view of the bakers is in line with yours and that is why they are out of business. Perfectly fine to post irrational opinions here but not good for businesses.
[quote=Goodnight;42449211]This does not come close to the scale of blacks and the civil rights movement, laws such as these are in fact a product of that movement.
Says you.
Civil disobedience is a basic part of our society but it doesn't mean you're on the right side of history.
Also a matter of opinion.
The Weathermen, FALN, Black Panthers, Boston Tea Party were all fighting against what they thought were unjust laws, just be ready to accept the consequences when you lose.
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The EEOC filed suit on behalf of Muslim truckers who were fired for refusing to carry alcohol because it violated their religious beliefs. Christians, however, get no such protection for refusing to service 'gay's demanding they bake wedding cakes and cater 'gay weddings.'
this isnt the first time this has come up, we agree that if you get a job like this, you should realize that you have to haul things you disagree with.
That being said, this isnt a double standard. the Cake shop refused to make the cake period, the truck company did not refuse to deliver the cargo.
I just don't know why it is such a big deal? Go to another bakery, I would say majority of the bakeries would not mind to take your money.
A lot of conflicts should be avoided if people can just leave each other alone. Labeling people or starting a movement really won't solve anything.
So let's say you're driving from Cortez, Colorado to Monticello, Utah. There are no gas stations in the 60 mile stretch. Your car breaks down. You use your cell phone for help and get a tow truck coming (which actually wouldn't happen since there is no cell phone service there), but let's just say you did. The tow truck comes and when it gets there the driver says, "I don't serve Asians" (or Blacks or gays or whatever). There is no other service. Do you start walking 30 miles in the desert heat? Just stay at your car and die?
So let's say you're driving from Cortez, Colorado to Monticello, Utah. There are no gas stations in the 60 mile stretch. Your car breaks down. You use your cell phone for help and get a tow truck coming (which actually wouldn't happen since there is no cell phone service there), but let's just say you did. The tow truck comes and when it gets there the driver says, "I don't serve Asians" (or Blacks or gays or whatever). There is no other service. Do you start walking 30 miles in the desert heat? Just stay at your car and die?
You don't carelessly leave yourself in such a vulnerable position. You call your roadside assistance service provider and tell them what happened. They'll make things right.
The principle is the same. Christians are forced to violate their religious beliefs, but Muslims get protected. I just want to see what happens when a gay couple demands a wedding cake from a Muslim bakery!
Or a cake depicting the prophet mohamed. I wonder how that would go over...
Or a cake depicting the prophet mohamed. I wonder how that would go over...
That is something that could be denied for religious beliefs, but they couldn't deny an Atheist from being able to order any cakes they made.
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