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I actually think Medicare could make money by insuring young healthy people. Why not?
As far as I am aware, no government-funded health insurance system makes money anywhere, ever. Costs actually go up, just like so many other things in life.
Is it sustainable? Absolutely.
What would happen if everybody was covered? Americans would be less afraid of their "masters", the rich and the powerful, private insurers would have much less clout and political influence, politicians would be forced to be more accountable and direct much more of their energies on job creation and the economy, now that the population is more healthy and the workforce increases, and the tax base would then increase.
Lifelong healthcare is a great equalizer...you would be able to focus on living your life and fulfill your goals without fear of economic ruin or hardship, or job loss. Access to good healthcare is a powerful thing.
Since 2008 I have supported middle class preference as far as tax and benefits.
The poor we take of, the rich are on their own and obviously continue to succeed.
So you agree, the middle class should be paying the highest marginal income tax rate like they do in Scandinavian countries, and EVERYONE should likewise also be paying a 20-25% VAT tax.
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Less middle class tax, more benefits = means more new money creation.
And that dilutes the value of a dollar and makes the poor even more poor.
So you agree, the middle class should be paying the highest marginal income tax rate like they do in Scandinavian countries, and EVERYONE should likewise also be paying a 20-25% VAT tax.
And that dilutes the value of a dollar and makes the poor even more poor.
No. My middle class gets lower taxes and/or more benefits. And yes we continue to care for our poor with inflation adjusted benefits. Yes we might get a bit more inflation. Or not.
There must be some inherent monetary risk for many parties while we seek much greater and improved HC access for all.
Last time I checked, younger, presumably healthier people, are charged substantially less than older people in the individual plan market. Younger people also have the ability to buy Catastrophic Plans in the individual plan market.
Maybe so, but they're not enrolling. So even though they would pay less, they're not joining the Obamacare insurance pool in adequate numbers to sustain Obamacare.
Not exactly comparing apples to apples here are you.
Show me a country with similar demographics to ours that has single-payer health care and better outcomes than we do. The examples that Bernie and others support to are largely homogenous, low population Scandinavian cultures. He talks about Norway and Denmark and Finland. It's easier to foster an idea that we're all in this together kind of socialism when everyone looks the same and speaks the same language. This has changed a tiny bit with Muslim immigration but those countries are still overwhelmingly white. Just like Vermont, which is currently trying to institute single payer healthcare and gave Obama one of his highest margins of victory in both 2008 and 2012. What does Vermont have in common with Norway or Finland? It is overwhelmingly white with a small population.
Show me a country with our demographics or even something remotely similar with our underclasses toiling in poverty (soon to be made even worse by more unrestricted immigration) and a single-payer health care system and I'll look at it.
They also have a far more regressive tax structure just for being a native of their respective countries.
American liberals are brainwashed retards. There is no such thing as "free" and there is no such thing as unicorns and rainbow happy land.
There is nothing wrong with the concept of universal healthcare. For it to work, every citizen has to pay. It's not that hard.
It would cost less if you remove the profit made by private health insurance. They make billions a year by simply acting as "MIddle MAN". Writing up a health policy is not rocket science and no justification to make billions in profit. The job can be done with a reasonable fixed fee.
Health care would also cost less if corporate America did not own the hospitals. For corporate America a hospital is simply a means to maximize profit.
I am not against folks making billions or trillions of dollars as long as they are creating technology and innovation. I wish we had a million Bill gates and folks like that. Heath Insurance CEOs do not create anything, they simply act as middle man.
No. My middle class gets lower taxes and/or more benefits.
Can't do it that way. Look at all the countries that provide more benefits. They all do it by having regressive tax systems instead of the progressive tax system we have here in the US.
It would cost less if you remove the profit made by private health insurance.
It would cost 3 or 4% less. How far is that going to go? And even that 3 or 4% savings is debatable because the government is notoriously less efficient than the private sector, plus the government's employment costs are much higher.
It would cost 3 or 4% less. How far is that going to go? And even that 3 or 4% savings is debatable because the government is notoriously less efficient than the private sector, plus the government's employment costs are much higher.
4% of a very large sum is a lot of money.
The handling of the plans can be contracted out by the government for a fee rather than 4% profit.
Why do the little guys defend the elite.
Like I said, though, if the government has to handle claims instead of insurance companies, that 3 or 4% savings would disappear and more might even be lost. The government's employment costs are significantly higher than those of the private sector.
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The handling of the plans can be contracted out by the government for a fee rather than 4% profit.
Why do the little guys defend the elite.
What makes you think any private sector corporation will accept a service contract for no profit?
For example, in Defense spending, government contractors earn profit margins of anywhere from 3 to 11%.
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