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Old 08-31-2018, 06:44 PM
 
Location: Starting a walkabout
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This is getting to be silly.

Why on earth would the Democrats want to trade Trump for Pence or Ryan?

Winning the house is sufficient. Senate too would be better...but may not be possible.

If Trump is impeached it will be by the Republicans. And if they do not have a really clean case the Democrats will not go along. So it could well turn out to be the Democrats who protect Trump. Lesser of the evils.

Trump is crashing beyond doubt. But he is still President until 2020. Why on earth replace him with someone who may be competent? Now if the right thinks he is out of control maybe some deal...But I doubt it.

When the right elected Trump they earned their reward.

I can't stand Pence.
I am OK with Trump. If he wins in 2020 so be it, as long as the economy is good.

Let us see if democrats bring someone on to give him a good run for his money. All I see till now are loser candidates who won't have a snowball's chance in hell in Nov 2020. If the economy is still strong at that time they can kiss that seat goodbye. Polls don't elect presidents, electoral college votes do.
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Old 08-31-2018, 07:31 PM
 
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Partisan divisions are 37-percent, Democrats ,33-perecent Republicans

So when you poll 4% MORE dems the repubs, would you expect any other "results"?


Well it IS ABC and the Wash. Post!
Do you understand that 4 % more democrats are polled because there are 4% more democrats?
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Old 08-31-2018, 07:33 PM
 
Location: NC
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polls?
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Old 08-31-2018, 08:36 PM
 
Location: FL
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And yet, every time his poll numbers go up a few points, we get a thread in all bolded caps and Trump tweets it out about 5 times.

So let's all get this straight. The polls showing negative for Trump are fake and to be ignored, but polls (usually Rasmussen) showing Trump approval up are 'real' and broadcast all over the internet.

Trump disapproval has hit an all-time high of 60%. This means that Independents are disapproving--not a good sign.
Now you got it.
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Old 09-01-2018, 04:49 AM
 
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You mean Trump toady Alan Dershowitz who tried to smear Robert Mueller with the Whitey Bulger case only to have it blow up in his face when it was shot down by federal judge Nancy Gertner in a piece that appeared in the New York Times? Dershowitz has less credibility than Trump.

THIS is the way the libs act.


Say something they disagree with and they go on the full attack mode with juvenile name calling and trying to discredit the person being talked about.


"who tried to smear Robert Mueller"


Obviously, you do NOT know much about Mueller.


"There is a longtime and incestuous relationship between the fixers who have been tasked with taking down President Trump, under the fake narrative of enforcing the law. James Comey worked in the DOJ directly under Mueller until 2005. Rod Rosenstein and Mueller go even further back."

https://stonecoldtruth.com/muller-ro...he-deep-state/
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Old 09-01-2018, 05:00 AM
 
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You apparently don’t know squat about poll sampling.

There are more Democrats and Independents nationally among registered voters than Republicans. Any legitimate sampling of registered voters will be weighed to reflect that fact. When you get down to likely voters that could change.
You apparently don’t know squat.

"There are more Democrats and Independents nationally among registered voters than Republicans

Never claimed otherwise but when you poll MORE dems and ind THEN repubs OBVIOUSLY your poll results are NOT going to favor repubs so quit making such big deal about them.

Look at the other side of the coin. The repubs control the WH, the Senate, the House, and about 37 state legislatures. If there are so many MORE dems and inds then repubs, how did the repubs manage to out vote the dems and inds to get control of all these legislatures?

Like they say, "liars figure but figures do NOT lie"
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Old 09-01-2018, 05:07 AM
 
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Obstruction of justice in the firing of Comey, and conspiracy in his admission that Junior went to TT looking for dirt on Hillary from Russia. Both admissions of guilt out of his own mouth. The court doesn't even need to be involved. Congress does not have to wait for independent input from an outside source to impeach. "High Crimes and Misdemeanors" is like "collusion" - neither has any legal legal definition. It's whatever Congress says it is today.

If he finishes is term until 2020, it will indeed be a sorry thing.

"Obstruction of justice in the firing of Comey.


Comey said, "I serve at the PLEASURE of the president. he CAN for me for ANYTHING or NOTHING"


Care to explain what "at the pleasure of the president means"?


I doubt if you will becuae I have called you out before to furnish FACTS on some of your cliams and all I hear are crickets.
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Old 09-01-2018, 05:14 AM
 
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Far left? He may have been at one time, but not now...Dersowitz has been a huge Trump supporter.

You people confuse the hell out of us.


Obama was s Harvard Law School professor an we should bow down to him because of it. Alan HAS been a Harvard Law School professor longer then Obam was in the Senate ans NOW he is NOT credible.


".Dersowitz has been a huge Trump supporter." Prove it.


He is NOT a Trump supporter and says so admits he is a dem and voted for hillary, BUT does discuss the LEGAL issues of which he is considered an expert on.
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Old 09-01-2018, 05:18 AM
 
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"No reporter from the Washington Post is ever to be in the White House." Richard Nixon. He couldn't stop the reporters from attending press conferences. Free speech is still a right in this country. Isn't it an interesting parallel that Nixon resigned before he was impeached having tried to discredit the Washington Post and now we have Trump trying to discredit the MSM because he can't control the narrative. (Well except in right wing media through lies and conspiracy theories.)

The WaPo still stands decades later and will be here decades after Trump is gone.

Polls are the pulse of the people. Just because one poll was wrong doesn't mean all polls are wrong. What I see here on City Data supports the poll. We have a few die hard supporters and maybe even some trolls (?) and a whole lot of angry people that want Trump gone asap.

"Polls are the pulse of the people" and so MANY were dead WRONG on the presidential election.


It is surprising how so many STILL believe in them after them being so embarrassed over their election predictions.


"You CAN fool SOME of the people ALL of the time!"
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Old 09-01-2018, 07:24 AM
 
Location: Baltimore, MD
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Absolutely there are. But you have to wonder about the wisdom of impeaching him. It may be a short term "win" for the Democrats but in the long run, it might be better for them to leave him in there until 2020. That's because he will continue to do irreparable damage to the Republican Party and further splinter traditional conservatives away from neo-fascists. That will leave the Right in disarray for many many years, if not decades. Plus, we'd be left with Pence as President, and in some ways he could be worse than Trump.
Completely agree and great post. Sorry, I am out of reps.

I wasn't on board with it before but Pence might be worse....

Slimmest of slim chance Trump gets a second term and it's possible he will be out before then.
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