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Old 04-12-2016, 02:25 PM
 
Location: No Mask For Me This Time, Either
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You are naive, many people can afford children and then their circumstances change later. I had two kids and lived a very nice middle class existence. My husband took off and left the state, never paid support or visited his kids, every time they caught up with him he would quit his job. For a few years I really struggled to support the kids, at times working two jobs.

If some idiot had accused me of recreational skanking they probably would have ended up picking their teeth up off the ground.
Where you prepared skill-wise to be able to support two children? Had he been a wonderful guy who got hit by a bus you could have been in the same situation. That you made a bad relationship decision (we all do it) doesn't excuse not thinking otherwise. So you pick yourself up and keep going.

Back on topic, giving non-skilled workers more for adding no additional value to the business is wrong. MW is an introductory wage not meant to support a family.
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Old 04-12-2016, 02:27 PM
 
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Someone still need to define "living wage" to me. What is that? If someone can't live on $5/hour, something is wrong with that person.

How so? A person working full time at $5/hour takes home about $750 per month. If they are paying market rent they're not going to have much left to live on.
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Old 04-12-2016, 02:27 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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The cost of living is so low in Oklahoma living on min. wage should be possible, provided one is willing to share a one bedroom trailer house with someone else. Doing that in Arkansas would be easier, though, since the min. wage there is $8 hr. to go up to $8.50 in Jan.
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Old 04-12-2016, 02:27 PM
 
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Here you go.
Living Wage | Definition of Living wage by Merriam-Webster

And how exactly does one live on $5/hr? Which amounts to $10K in a year if working full time.
What kind of food and what kind of shelter?

I used to live on less than 9K/year and still paid my freaking tuition myself.

Sharing rooms, don't eat out, don't drink, smoke, go out, etc.

I used to be poor and each month, I still managed to save $20.
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Old 04-12-2016, 02:28 PM
 
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How so? A person working full time at $5/hour takes home about $750 per month. If they are paying market rent they're not going to have much left to live on.
Not if they are the room with 4 people.

Illegal immigrants work for $2/hour and they still manage to send money back home.
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Old 04-12-2016, 02:31 PM
 
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What kind of food and what kind of shelter?

I used to live on less than 9K/year and still paid my freaking tuition myself.

Sharing rooms, don't eat out, don't drink, smoke, go out, etc.

I used to be poor and each month, I still managed to save $20.
What year were you living on $9K a year? How much was your rent? What was your food budget? What about transportation? I would love to see how this worked out for you at such a low amount of money.

Oh and saving $240 a year isn't much to save, that wouldn't even cover one month's rent anywhere.
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Old 04-12-2016, 02:31 PM
 
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Not if they are the room with 4 people.

Illegal immigrants work for $2/hour and they still manage to send money back home.

Where I live, it is unlawful to live in a room with four people. Not to mention my landlords didn't like the idea either.
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Old 04-12-2016, 02:33 PM
 
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Where I live, it is unlawful to live in a room with four people. Not to mention my landlords didn't like the idea either.
Then move!
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Old 04-12-2016, 02:38 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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You are so naive and irresponsible!
Ever heard of insurance? It is to protect the situation when the circumstances inevitably change including when your husband taking off and leaving you high and dry.
When I say insurance, I also mean insurance in yourself i.e. having enough savings or skills to support yourself and your children.
If you don't have anything, you aren't being responsible for yourself and you really shouldn't have children to begin with.
lol you're hilarious. I love to get scolded by random people on a forum who in all likelihood are glued to their PC in the basement asking mom to bring them another Pepsi
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Old 04-12-2016, 02:38 PM
 
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What year were you living on $9K a year? How much was your rent? What was your food budget? What about transportation? I would love to see how this worked out for you at such a low amount of money.

Oh and saving $240 a year isn't much to save, that wouldn't even cover one month's rent anywhere.
$750/month Income
Rent: $250-$300
Food: $150-200
Electricity: $20-40
Transportation: $20 bicycle bought from yard sale.
Kids: none from recreational shank as I got no time or money to date anybody.
No cell phone, internet, or cable TV.
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