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Old 04-10-2016, 12:43 PM
 
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This and there are stories about an island with young girls on it.......available to old men. If this is true, some important people are doing a fine job covering the story up.


Amazing how people speak of Bill cheating, but not the threats put on the women to keep everything quite. Some may think this was a minor action against his wife, but the women have faced much more than mild responses from the Clintons.
Do you condone pedophilia & molesting of young boys? If not, why do you continue to deflect & bring up Clinton & his consensual adult affair? Stick to the topic.
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Old 04-10-2016, 12:46 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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What an upstanding guy.

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So, Hastert is a perv. There have been others of both parties before him and no doubt there are some still serving who haven't been caught yet. It really isn't a political issue.
Except that - Hastert was one of the more outspoken Republicans with regard to Clinton's impeachment and affair. And all the while he was diddling little boys. Disgusting.

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This and there are stories about an island with young girls on it.......available to old men. If this is true, some important people are doing a fine job covering the story up.


Amazing how people speak of Bill cheating, but not the threats put on the women to keep everything quite. Some may think this was a minor action against his wife, but the women have faced much more than mild responses from the Clintons.
And ~ pivot to Bill Clinton. To the best of my knowledge, Clinton wasn't diddling little boys but had consensual sex with adult women.

Hastert is the worst of the worst - ALL the while proclaiming his moral superiority during the Lewinsky years.
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Old 04-10-2016, 01:01 PM
 
Location: Iowa, USA
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This and there are stories about an island with young girls on it.......available to old men. If this is true, some important people are doing a fine job covering the story up.


Amazing how people speak of Bill cheating, but not the threats put on the women to keep everything quite. Some may think this was a minor action against his wife, but the women have faced much more than mild responses from the Clintons.
I don't know enough about this topic to say anything. Either way, your straying away from my point and taking what I'm saying WAY out of context. Everything I said was in response to the the initial point about how Democrats were ok with Bill's cheating. My point was that the comparison doesn't work. Now, if those allegations you brought up are in fact true, the comparison would work a little better, but it's still not really the same.

Hastert was a man who championed family values, who believed homosexuality to be wrong and the nuclear family to be the only viable option. He also molested people.

The issue is rather or not family values are actually a valid viewpoint and what it means when so many of these people end up getting multiple divorced, found to be in a homosexual affair, or have had sexual contact with minors, all of which go against the family value narrative they have built up. Bill Clinton is not part of this.
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Old 04-10-2016, 01:18 PM
 
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Hastert was a man who championed family values, who believed homosexuality to be wrong and the nuclear family to be the only viable option. He also molested people.

The issue is rather or not family values are actually a valid viewpoint and what it means when so many of these people end up getting multiple divorced, found to be in a homosexual affair, or have had sexual contact with minors, all of which go against the family value narrative they have built up. Bill Clinton is not part of this.
The irony of all this "family values" business being strutted about by those abusing little boys.

My favorite is the "family values" guy who told his wife he was divorcing her when she was in the hospital fighting cancer. Now there's a winner for you.
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Old 04-10-2016, 01:23 PM
 
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Do you condone pedophilia & molesting of young boys? If not, why do you continue to deflect & bring up Clinton & his consensual adult affair? Stick to the topic.
Rank hypocrisy and all that.

Only the left can both lambast and glorify "sexual orientation" and get away with it. That's because, like yourself, there are no standards. You make that blatantly clear with each and every post making accusations of condoning or maybe even outright being a pedophile.

Pathetic and exactly what should be expected from our left-wing counterparts. Take notes...
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Old 04-10-2016, 01:24 PM
 
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Rank hypocrisy and all that.

Only the left can both lambast and glorify "sexual orientation" and get away with it. That's because, like yourself, there are no standards. You make that blatantly clear with each and every post making accusations of condoning or maybe even outright being a pedophile.

Pathetic and exactly what should be expected from our left-wing counterparts.
Hypocritical....how? Your posts are just, quite simply, illogical.
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Old 04-10-2016, 01:28 PM
 
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I don't know enough about this topic to say anything. Either way, your straying away from my point and taking what I'm saying WAY out of context. Everything I said was in response to the the initial point about how Democrats were ok with Bill's cheating. My point was that the comparison doesn't work. Now, if those allegations you brought up are in fact true, the comparison would work a little better, but it's still not really the same.

Hastert was a man who championed family values, who believed homosexuality to be wrong and the nuclear family to be the only viable option. He also molested people.

The issue is rather or not family values are actually a valid viewpoint and what it means when so many of these people end up getting multiple divorced, found to be in a homosexual affair, or have had sexual contact with minors, all of which go against the family value narrative they have built up. Bill Clinton is not part of this.
Clinton, who championed equality, used his power and influence to both sleep with women and keep them quite when the "bimbo brigade" came out in full force in 1992. Liberal feminists were like a deer in headlights...

Rank hypocrisy runs in both parties.

Pedophilia is wrong. So is sexual harassment and the silencing of victims. Something you see over and over in both these cases.
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Old 04-10-2016, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Iowa, USA
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Rank hypocrisy and all that.

Only the left can both lambast and glorify "sexual orientation" and get away with it. That's because, like yourself, there are no standards. You make that blatantly clear with each and every post making accusations of condoning or maybe even outright being a pedophile.

Pathetic and exactly what should be expected from our left-wing counterparts. Take notes...
Are you making this about gay people, but not saying because you aren't brave enough? This is the second time you've brought up sexual orientation and implied another orientation.

The standard, since you claimed one does not exist, is based on consent, trust, and outcome. In other words, I rational method of determining morality. When two men are having consensual sex, there is not injustice occurring. If a man sexually assaults another man, even if they are both gay, it's unjust. The sexual orientation is not the point.

Same deal with pedophilia. It's ok to be a pedophile, I guess, but that's with the assumption that you aren't having sexual encounters that violate the moral principles that exist on this level. When an adult touches a child, it's not consensual and a trust has been violated.

Morality is not attached to a sexual orientation; it's attached to behavior.
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Old 04-10-2016, 02:21 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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The irony of all this "family values" business being strutted about by those abusing little boys.

My favorite is the "family values" guy who told his wife he was divorcing her when she was in the hospital fighting cancer. Now there's a winner for you.
Was that Newt? They are all starting to run together.

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Clinton, who championed equality, used his power and influence to both sleep with women and keep them quite when the "bimbo brigade" came out in full force in 1992. Liberal feminists were like a deer in headlights...

Rank hypocrisy runs in both parties.

Pedophilia is wrong. So is sexual harassment and the silencing of victims. Something you see over and over in both these cases.
Consensual sex with adult women is not the same as raping little boys. Sorry. The two do not equate.
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Old 04-10-2016, 02:29 PM
 
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Consensual sex with adult women is not the same as raping little boys. Sorry. The two do not equate.
What he did is vile and reprehensible but these were not little boys, all were in high school.
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