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Old 04-07-2017, 07:50 PM
 
Location: S.E. US
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Problem is that there are people here who say that the Constitution doesn't permit the vetting of values.

Values are different in different cultures, and too many immigrants don't want to assimilate into their new country. They value *their* values, some of which are abhorrent to us.

And since most of those values are tied to religion, we're up against a wall since we can't ask "what do you believe?" As if they'd tell us anyway.

It's interesting to note that Canadians feel they should be vetting values of their immigrants, which indicates to me that there are clashes of cultures, some of which may be totally unacceptable in civil Western countries. And should be, I might add.
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Old 04-07-2017, 08:01 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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Why anyone would believe anything posted on this blog is beyond me. You may as well cite the KKK site.

25,000 Syrian refugees have been settled in Canada, compared to 10,000 in the US and we are not having these kinds of problems here.
Boise, Idaho Breaking News, Weather, Traffic, Sports | KTVB.COM is not a right-wing nut-job blog. How anyone can deny that their culture allows and indeed encourages this kind of behavior "is beyond me." Books by such formerly devout Muslims as Ayaan Hirsi Ali's Infidel and Nomad lay this out in excruciating detail.
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Old 04-07-2017, 08:05 PM
 
Location: Twin Falls Idaho
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What I am trying to say is that there is a difference between telling them what accepted behaviors are and determining that they have bought into those new expectations before they get the final OK to enter the US.

I understand that for the resettlement agencies this is a volume based business. The more bodies that come in the more money they make. I get it. Host communities have no say in the matter and as such the feds and the agencies need to be held accountable to thoroughly vet these people. In the Twin Falls case, those families clearly hadn't gotten a very thorough vetting.
Well..not sure how you would do that..a small correction though...The College of Southern Idaho...CSI...runs the refugee program..they are a non-profit and make no money..regardless of the number of Refugees settled, and there is a lot of input from the community. Jobs outreach..medical and housing needs.
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Old 04-07-2017, 08:07 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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You mean these migrants pled guilty to a crime that according to Snopes, the left wing media, a local prosecutor and a federal prosecutor said never occurred? One that a federal prosecutor threatened have people arrested for even discussing? An event that even the local media tried to cover up and claim never happened?

The media are some of the biggest LIARS we have in this country. No honor or integrity.
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Old 04-07-2017, 08:16 PM
 
Location: Twin Falls Idaho
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You mean these migrants pled guilty to a crime that according to Snopes, the left wing media, a local prosecutor and a federal prosecutor said never occurred? One that a federal prosecutor threatened have people arrested for even discussing? An event that even the local media tried to cover up and claim never happened?

The media are some of the biggest LIARS we have in this country. No honor or integrity.
..or...just for a switch..you could read the truth...and put aside your agenda--assuming, of course, that your really care about what happened..and as one who lives here...there was NEVER any cover-up locally..what you term 'cover-up' was a reasoned investigation..without the rush to judgement people..most of them well to the North of us..wanted.

Prosecutor: Boys in Fawnbrook case plead guilty | Southern Idaho Crime and Courts | magicvalley.com
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Old 04-07-2017, 08:28 PM
 
Location: Japan
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Not going to go through all that..but look at BanjoMikes post..he had it right..as usual..most of the denials were of the lie that the perpetrators were Syrian, when in fact, 2 were Eritrean and the 7 year old was from Iraq.
No, actually, if you go back and look through the early pages of this thread you will see about 20 people swearing that the assault never happened and was a complete fabrication.
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Old 04-07-2017, 08:37 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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No, actually, if you go back and look through the early pages of this thread you will see about 20 people swearing that the assault never happened and was a complete fabrication.
Do they now insist that the Sunday School choir got horny and went berserk?
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Old 04-07-2017, 08:44 PM
 
Location: Twin Falls Idaho
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No, actually, if you go back and look through the early pages of this thread you will see about 20 people swearing that the assault never happened and was a complete fabrication.
OK..liars on both sides..one does not excuse the other--a pox on both their houses!
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Old 04-07-2017, 08:58 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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..or...just for a switch..you could read the truth...and put aside your agenda--assuming, of course, that your really care about what happened..and as one who lives here...there was NEVER any cover-up locally..what you term 'cover-up' was a reasoned investigation..without the rush to judgement people..most of them well to the North of us..wanted.

Prosecutor: Boys in Fawnbrook case plead guilty | Southern Idaho Crime and Courts | magicvalley.com
Sorry, but it wasn't just Twin Falls where the lies were told. Even up here in the CDA/Spokane area, our media flat out lied. They insisted that the stories were not true, that no 5 year old disabled child was sexually assaulted by Muslim "refugees". They insisted that the stories were lies by right-wing "hate groups". A federal prosecutor threatened those that reported the truth about the case. The only error in the original reports? The perpetrators were not Syrian as first reported, they were Iraqi and Sudanese.
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Old 04-08-2017, 12:08 AM
 
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You mean these migrants pled guilty to a crime that according to Snopes, the left wing media, a local prosecutor and a federal prosecutor said never occurred? One that a federal prosecutor threatened have people arrested for even discussing? An event that even the local media tried to cover up and claim never happened?

The media are some of the biggest LIARS we have in this country. No honor or integrity.
It boggles the mind, doesn't it?
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