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Old 06-28-2016, 05:23 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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We have 162,760 people for every 1 mile of border with Mexico. 30 people per foot. Easy to fathom a secure border at that rate huh? You would like secure borders wouldnt you?

There are 50x's more US troops sitting along a boarder between North & South Korea, than Border Patrol agents along the borders we have with Mexico and Canada.
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Old 06-28-2016, 05:27 PM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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Who's surprised by the usual liberal double standard? No one, liberals won't even admit it exists.
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Old 06-28-2016, 05:28 PM
 
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A physical barrier worked in San Diego:

San Diego Fence Provides Lessons in Border Control : NPR

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Today, Henry is assistant chief of the Border Patrol's San Diego sector. He says apprehensions here are down 95 percent, from 100,000 a year to 5,000 a year, largely because the single strand of cable marking the border was replaced by double — and in some places, triple — fencing.
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Old 06-28-2016, 05:30 PM
 
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But I bet you anything Zuckerberg didn't put up his wall expecting it to keep out determined intruders.
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Since seat belts don't save everyone, are they a waste?

Since hospital emergency rooms don't save everyone, should we stop wasting money on them?
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Old 06-28-2016, 05:35 PM
 
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Well, one difference would be the wall around someone's residence is cost effective, and not a billionaire boondoggle.

Another difference is Zuckerbergers wall is apparently actually being built, unlike Trumps imaginary wall which never will be.
I've been agreeing that walls need to go up back when Trump still loved Hilary.
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Old 06-28-2016, 05:40 PM
 
Location: DFW
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I wonder how many armed guards the man employs for personal protection.
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Old 06-28-2016, 05:48 PM
 
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I'll call them hypocrites in a heartbeat. Will you also call Mr. Facebutt a hypocrite?
I don't know who "Mr. Facebutt" is.....
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Old 06-28-2016, 06:10 PM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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Not a deterrent at all, plenty of thieves have broken windows to get inside the stores. That's why smart business owners don't leave money in the register overnight. My old boss would put the empty register right in front of the window to tell thieves there's no money there.

Knowing that most cash registers are empty, people started robbing the ATM machines inside the stores. Some of them even drove cars throw the windows, grabbed the machines and ran. That's why those machines now give out tickets instead of real cash, you take that ticket to the cashier and exchange for real money.

So now, those doors and windows are no deterrent. At all.



No one has ever climbed over my parent's wall because a person can get inside by just belling their front gate. Now, if my parents had completely walled off their property and wouldn't let anyone in, then I'm sure people will start climbing over the wall because that'd be the only way in. That's a metaphor here that I hope you'll get.

The highest number that Trump said for the height of the wall is 55 feet. Keep in mind that a fire truck's ladder can reach 105 feet. Basically the coyote can breach the wall if they just get their hands on a fire truck or some other machinery with tall ladder.
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I disagree. While people (crooks) can break windows; it clearly shows they are crooks. There is no watering of terms like 'undocumented' workers - they are illegally in this Country once they broke that window or climbed that wall. It's symbolic; if nothing else. But, I do believe, that it will stop the hoards (the invasion). Most do not carry ladders on their backs as they cross the hot wastelands of our Southwest. Even if they did; they still have a long ways down from the other side. If there are areas that still have problems; maybe we could consider a double wall?

As far as your parents property; I have nine neighbors (which includes one bad neighbor). I put up one two hundred and fifty foot log row on the bad neighbors side. He has not crossed over since I put up the log row and that is only five feet high. He can go around the ends of the row; but he would have to trespass through another neighbor's property and then he has two enemies. Fences are a deterrent. With your parents the fence says that this is mine and that is yours - even if they can simply open the gate.
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Old 06-28-2016, 06:52 PM
 
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Mark Suckerburg walls off his mansions, and now is walling off a huge piece of land in Hawaii.
I thought they didn't work.
Anti-Trump Open Borders Advocate Zuckerberg Buys Hawaii Property - Puts Up Wall

Maybe it's to protect all the Syrian refugees he has allowed to squat on his land.

Typical limousine liberal.


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I seem to recall that the "Walls don't work" argument was made in the context of illegal immigration across the US-Mexico border, not parcels of residential land.
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Old 06-28-2016, 06:55 PM
 
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Apparently building a fence around private property is identical to building a wall along a country border.....it still wouldn't stop those that wish to come into the country since most people that are here illegally came in through the front door.
That's true but most crimes are committed by illegals who came across the border illegally and not because they over stayed but over staying should also be addressed and a solution find to prevent that from happening.

The main issues with illegals coming across the border is that gangs bring in illegal guns, drugs and ISIS terrorist easily can join the illegals crossing the border.

These types of illegals usually ever came here legal and than over stayed.

I understand that celebraties need to be careful and protected and Zuckerberg may be a target for kidnappers but it is always liberal hypocrisy when they have their mouth full of how others need to think while they themselves don't fall under the same rules.

People in Chicago probably want a wall or some protection to avoid the bullets killing their kids but nobody seem to care about the killings over there to step up and act.
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