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If whites don't think about political correctness, they would be lynched by the liberal mobsters in no time.
One particular race can say any hateful and racist thing but get away with it while whites and Asians better keep their mouths shut and take it like a man.
Which race can say any hateful and racist thing and "get away with it?" And LOL you are proving my point in that to be PC you just want to call people racist and homophobic names and not get called out for your racist and homophobic statements.
I notice when something racist is said on social media or it general by whites and it gets a lot of backlash, whites then talk about political correctness and not having freedom of speech.
Whites do make it seem like they're the only group "effected" by this so-called political correctness? Aren't non-whites affected by it as well?
Well...the question could just as easily be "Who don't non-whites complain about political correctness more?"
I don't know the answer to either question.
Both the PC loving crowd and the anti-PC crowd have valid points now and then. It's mostly the eccentrics on either side that the other side complains about.
For example, I'd define the undesirable eccentrics on the anti-PC side as those people who continually describe political correctness like its some kind of monstrous, blob-like organism that wants to devour the minds of humanity.
I remember someone on this forum awhile back who made a thread about how we should do something horrible to the political correctness lovers. I don't remember what it was. Maybe the person wanted them deported. I don't like that kind of fanatical hatred of a concept that exists pretty much strictly in the believer's imagination. I don't like that declaring war on imaginary dragons and calling it political correctness.
A few of the undesirable members of the pro PC crowd I'm thinking of were the types of people who were irritated by Gwyneth Paltrow saying "Ni__er" because it was a part of the title of a song awhile ago.
Some people want to attack political correctness because of the silliness it can result in. Some people don't want to destroy political correctness...they just don't want mandatory politeness outside their workplace. They get irritated by feminist groups and minority groups getting billboards taken down, or television shows changed because they find it offensive and things like that.
Some people feel like holy text burning, and flag burning, and deeply offensive language and direct insults is their right. That's long been an issue.
In much of the wealthier western world of Europe and Canada, political correctness is a little more enforced than in the United States, so far as I know. Some people see that as a threat. They're concerned that we'll become that way too, so it's easy to rally people behind the whole anti-PC idea.
I notice when something racist is said on social media or it general by whites and it gets a lot of backlash, whites then talk about political correctness and not having freedom of speech.
Whites do make it seem like they're the only group "effected" by this so-called political correctness? Aren't non-whites affected by it as well?
Firstly, that's not really true. Plenty of minority groups (this could include homosexuals, who are sometimes white) are not fans of political correctness.
And let's be real; white people do get the raw end of political correctness. And I'm not doing some 'we're the victims' BS because I don't think that's true. As a white person, a white man no less, I don't actually feel victimized by any of it. I do however thing it's hilariously stupid and obviously contradictory.
Just as an example, if a black person says they're proud to be black, it's empowering. If a white person says they're proud to be white, they'll probably be called a Nazi or some equivalent thing. Why? What could possibly be the difference between these two things? Either both are wrong or both are right. There's no sensible reason to assume one is bad and the other is good. But this is a result of political correctness. By it's nature, political correctness is a tool meant to suppress certain things from being said at an attempt to prevent certain groups, generally just minorities, from being offended. Supporters of the practice confuse being PC with being polite. Not so.
Firstly, that's not really true. Plenty of minority groups (this could include homosexuals, who are sometimes white) are not fans of political correctness.
And let's be real; white people do get the raw end of political correctness. And I'm not doing some 'we're the victims' BS because I don't think that's true. As a white person, a white man no less, I don't actually feel victimized by any of it. I do however thing it's hilariously stupid and obviously contradictory.
Just as an example, if a black person says they're proud to be black, it's empowering. If a white person says they're proud to be white, they'll probably be called a Nazi or some equivalent thing. Why? What could possibly be the difference between these two things? Either both are wrong or both are right. There's no sensible reason to assume one is bad and the other is good. But this is a result of political correctness. By it's nature, political correctness is a tool meant to suppress certain things from being said at an attempt to prevent certain groups, generally just minorities, from being offended. Supporters of the practice confuse being PC with being polite. Not so.
The thing is though...the white supremacists have already taken "white power." Non racists won't be able to get it back for, like decades, probably, minimum.
Black power has not yet been hijacked by black supremacists. Some black supremacists use the term, but it's commonly enough used by non-racists that it doesn't have the sense of hostility that "white power does."
So...go ahead and chant white power. I won't consider you a bad person. I think that's perfectly fair...but from the practical aspect...except every single person to assume you're a white supremacist or KKK member until you explain otherwise.
That's not political correctness that's responsible for that difference for the most part. That's just history.
You should choose another term unless you want to drag the several ton boulder of your decision through an uphill battle.
On the bold, I don't think you get what I'm saying in regards to public shaming and especially not so in regards to public social media posts that can make people lose their jobs/reputation. That can "hurt" them more than any physical violence as it hurts their pockets.
In regards to me specifically, I work in a management position and make a lot of decisions for organizations that have millions of dollars in their budgets to extend with businesses. The majority of my racist language interactions at work have been with business owners who called me racially charged names or accused me of being a racist. Due to them doing that, I will tell them how unprofessional it is but also tell them that they will no longer be working with us and that will cause them to lose money and "hurt" their bottom line. So again, you can hurt without doing so physically. I also provide references for businesses, especially construction companies and some of those racially charged worded folks for some reason put me down as a reference for their work and I will usually tell any other company/organization that contacts me about the racially charged incidents, whereby they are further reduced in the eyes of new organizations/companies and they lose business.
So my situation is not "hot air." I hit people where it hurts. In their pockets. And FWIW, I don't care if you think I'm any racist or sexist stereotype, but if you do, you should be smart and keep it to yourself while you are in my presence.
On cost benefits analysis, I can always find another business that does what you (general you) do better than you do it for a cheaper price than you will do it for and I can professionally bad mouth you for years all the while you continue to lose business based on your choice of words in my presence.
That's a lot of energy though. What benefit do you get in "shaming" others?
I use shaming in quotes because as an anarchist I know shaming only works when you have ownership over yourself and your labor.
Neither of us do. Your anecdote is all well and good but unless you can take shaming to the logical conclusion of refusing service (and you can't so please don't tell me you can) it really only goes so far.
The "race" thing in this overall conversation doesn't interest me because race is a fictional social construct. I'd rather debate the merits of unicorns than melanin production triggers in Homo sapiens.
If whites don't think about political correctness, they would be lynched by the liberal mobsters in no time.
One particular race can say any hateful and racist thing but get away with it while whites and Asians better keep their mouths shut and take it like a man.
Why are you trying to put Asians into it? It just kills me how white folks are always trying to speak for Asians.
On this, I wanted to ask if you have ever been called a racist name to your face.
I do think many black people feel that they will be extremely shocked and/or angered when it occurs, but I've known a lot of black friends/family and my spouse who have been called racist names who did not come back with those names with any sort of verbal or physical altercation.
Honestly, every time it has happened, it was actually kind of humorous to me because, as stated, it always would happen to me at work. I usually have to tell people things that upset them in some way, usually about money, a business owner getting a contract or having issues with a contract where they make a lot of money (and them potentially losing a contract and FWIW I have had a contractor physically attack a co-worker before over losing a contract due to their poor performance), or in an HR capacity while disciplining/terminating employees.
In practically all the circumstances, the people who called me racist names were being immature, whiny, cry babies and they wanted to hurt/anger me in some way so they hurled out a racist or sexist or a combination of racist, sexist insults to me. I honestly would just look at them like . And I'd tell them the business of the day and how they should be ashamed of themselves for stooping so low. Luckily most did apologize but I did make sure to never work with those people again or provide them a reference for other work. If they were a customer, I'd get rid of them if I could. No one wants to deal with immaturity.
I think a lot of black people think they'll get all upset when they're called a "n*gg**" but when it actually happens, you'd probably just look at that person like the childish, immature, fool they are and disassociate yourself with them.
FWIW, my own spouse is very black nationalistic minded for the people kind of tough guy and he also has been called racial names quite a few times in his life and only once did he get into a physical altercation over it and that was only because the guy who called him the name came at him with a bat and tried to hit him with it/fight him. The other times, also happened to him at work over some childish person's tantrum over their own irresponsibility and so he just professionally dismissed them like I do at my own job.
While in the Army it happened once on a Friday night one time. A white guy in my battalion used the "N" word towards me and I beat the dog **** out of him. He actually went AWOL thinking he was going to get into more trouble Monday morning but I didn't report him. The ass whooping I gave him was enough and he never said that word in front of another black man again while we were in the same unit there...
Most white racists keep their opinions to themselves while I'm around because they just know what can happen to them...
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As a white guy...I'm a little irritated by PC culture because of my background. I remember as a youngster worrying about being racist. I didn't want to think racist thoughts. I didn't want to seem racist...and that's pretty pathetic, and I find myself irritated about that now.
A reasonable person wouldn't have thought that much about it. There's no sensible reason to search for any kind of subconscious racism for most people...maybe judges and when you're considering hiring someone, and police officers and things like that...but not young people.
So, there are some people who basically feel a kind of stupid white guilt...and I think our society trains that to some degree. I'm sure people are also trained the other direction too of course.
Ah good old violence... what ever happened to the old saying violence never solved anything.
Do you realize you're perpetuating a certain stereotype that black men are violent when you make such comments and act on them?
There's that "respect" thing wrapped up in anger over words someone else says to you, yet blacks call each other the "N" word all day long and although not in a disrespectful manner its still derogatory in nature and still holds black people back.
What stands out the most for me in this particular post is how open you are with being indifferent in your attitude and actions even to a level thats dangerous. Again when you do this it only reinforces that same stereotype of black men being dangerous and indifferent. Do you then see being violent might be a factor in why many white people don't want to be around, associate, live near, work with etc... black people, especially black males?
I would just hope that black men like you give great pause in reacting to such ignorance from that certain segment of the population who are racist. The way you react often times reflects more negatively on you than the original words from those idiots spewing them.
As a white male (speaking only for myself ) I have have had great friendships with people of all races and backgrounds however the reality is that I tend to distance myself from what I call "Thuggish" black males. I have had this honest race discussion among other whites and have a consensus that I'm not the only white who thinks like I do, which is that I find these certain black males to be a personal threat, unpredictable, and dangerous.
So why is it I can have great friendships with a lot of black women and even certain black male professionals but when I honestly state I dislike black thugs I am automatically racist because they are black even when my dislike of them is not based on the color of their skin but rather their actions and attitude of being Indecent, dangerous or indifferent??
Oh snap, we have another one of the “blacks are proving stereotypes” crowd.. Listen, most black folks don’t care what this crowd thinks. If you think it’s violent to go up side a white supremacist’s head, so be it. The days of most black folks ignoring racism, smiling, and shoe shining is over!
I will never give “great pause” when dealing with something I already know the answer to.. You mention having friendships with non-confrontational blacks. Let those people know how you really feel and see how long those friendships last…
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. And I'd tell them the business of the day and how they should be ashamed of themselves for stooping so low. Luckily most did apologize but I did make sure to never work with those people again or provide them a reference for other work. If they were a customer, I'd get rid of them if I could. No one wants to deal with immaturity. 