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Old 08-21-2016, 09:22 PM
 
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Melania was supposedly a call-girl when she met Trump.
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Old 08-21-2016, 10:50 PM
 
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Politico is balanced. Many on the left think it is too right wing.


Many on the left think MSNBC is too right wing.
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Old 08-21-2016, 11:01 PM
 
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That's what I want to know.

If so, this could be YUGE!



Yes, if your candidate repeatedly violated the Espionage Act, sold State Department favors, met clandestinely with the current AG to arrange an historic miscarriage of justice and are now desperate to find mud to sling at your opponent who has not violated the Espionage Act, sold State Departemnt favors or conspired to pervert justice, then yes, this could be huge.
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Old 08-22-2016, 06:47 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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It is not a non-issue.

We'll agree to disagree on that point. This is a tempest in a teapot.




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Any tourist who comes in the country is "in the country legally" but that in no way shape or form means they have permission to work. The '95 shoot was not the only work she did, and I doubt she worked for free continuously.

Doubt it all you like. Come back to me when you have proof. Even if she DID work and get paid, this is a pretty minor legal violation and it happens A LOT.



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In addition, Mr. Trump's modeling agency also skirted immigration laws. For the candidate who headlines himself as the "law and order" candidate, as the "immigration" candidate, it is not a lot to ask that he and his wife produce documents reflecting they were not breaking the law.

Guilty until proven innocent? That's not how our legal system works. Pictures are not, in and of themselves, evidence that laws were broken. IF laws were broken, great. Show me.



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It also brings up another large issue. Models are given almost half of the H1b visas hand out annually. This is ridiculous. Why should legal American women have to compete with the entire world for modeling jobs, and compete with models who will work for free? And btw, these models don't have to wait in the same lines other immigrants do. What makes them any different than IT workers?

We will also agree to disagree that models getting H1bs is a "large issue".



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We don't know if she came in on a tourist visa or an H1b visa because Trump will not tell us. This is the same man who demanded, yes demanded, that the POTUS produce a birth certificate to prove he was legitimate. He wants to be president and install his wife in the WH? He should live up to the same standards and demands he makes of others.

That was an idiotic demand, and Pres. Obama was under no obligation to do so. The idiocy was evidenced by the fact that even after he DID produce it, the loony-tunes Birthers still didn't believe.



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It's time this guy stopped just talking the talk, and walks the walk. Or he should just keep his big mouth shut and not demonize others for doing what he and his family have done. Let's hear Mr. "tells it like it is" tell us. And let's see Mrs. Trump's tax returns from when she 'worked here legally.'

I'm no fan of Trump, but this isn't the type of immigration problem he's talking about. "Building a wall" would have zero impact on H1b visa holders or anyone else in the country on a tourist visa that was, in fact, working. So, your parallel is pretty shaky.




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"...H-1B visas are valid for a minimum of three years (and up to six more) and do not require their holders to return to their home countries for renewals. By contrast, the visas that do require renewal are B-1 (Temporary Business Visitor Visas) or B-2 (Tourist Visas)..."

Donald Trump

Melania Trump May Have Committed Visa Fraud, Now She

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...er-its-easier/
Yes, I fully understand the details of the issue, but thanks for linking them again. Further, I don't care one whit if it's "easier" for models than for people in other career fields.


We, as a nation, have MUCH bigger fish to fry.
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Old 08-22-2016, 06:50 AM
 
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Melania was an illegal immigrant working illegally until she met Trump.
Melania claims she came to the US in 1996 but the nude photo shoot shows she was here in 1995. Melania also says that she would return home from New York to renew her visa every few months. This means she has visitor's visa only - a work visa would gave a longer time frame and not have required her to return home every few months.

Gaps in Melania Trump's immigration story raise questions - POLITICO
She was a top model and they have zero problems getting visas because they come and go with their jobs. At least they go and don't go on welfare.
They also don't want to in general break their money maker pushing out anchor babies.
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Old 08-22-2016, 06:50 AM
 
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Yes, if your candidate repeatedly violated the Espionage Act, sold State Department favors, met clandestinely with the current AG to arrange an historic miscarriage of justice and are now desperate to find mud to sling at your opponent who has not violated the Espionage Act, sold State Departemnt favors or conspired to pervert justice, then yes, this could be huge.
You must have a steady diet of Sean Hannity and Fox (faux) News !!
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Old 08-22-2016, 06:52 AM
 
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She was a top model and they have zero problems getting visas because they come and go with their jobs.
She was NOT a top model and, for modeling, was "over the hill" at age 26.
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Old 08-23-2016, 07:40 PM
 
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She was a top model and they have zero problems getting visas because they come and go with their jobs. At least they go and don't go on welfare.
They also don't want to in general break their money maker pushing out anchor babies.

Where? Not in the fashion industry. She only got a few jobs AFTER she got together with Trump. Melania's past is slowly being exposed. The Slovenian "modeling" agency was actually an escort service. She was also in the US illegally when she met Trump.
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Old 08-23-2016, 07:44 PM
 
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Where? Not in the fashion industry. She only got a few jobs AFTER she got together with Trump. Melania's past is slowly being exposed. The Slovenian "modeling" agency was actually an escort service. She was also in the US illegally when she met Trump.
So is being an escort "working"? If so, she was "working" on a tourist visa which is also illegal.
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Old 08-23-2016, 09:18 PM
 
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So is being an escort "working"? If so, she was "working" on a tourist visa which is also illegal.
Agreed. Working as an escort in the US while on a tourist visa is illegal.
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