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So you're moving because of horrible schools, horrible drivers and lots of crime. However, if you find another neighborbood that's a vast improvement in these categories but with the same demographic, would you move there?
Nope. If you read farther you will see I stated I enjoy being around my own people. People I share a culture/heritage/language with. On top of the fact the reason the schools suck is because 70% of the students don't understand English in ANY form....The crime FOLLOWS these people. It did not affect me when we lived in the smaller town.
If it was a mixed marriage of a black and white couple wouldn't make more since to ask about a neighborhood with blacks and whites instead of just diverse? If they moved into a neighborhood that was diverse by being 60% white, 30% Asian and 10% Hispanic, would that help the black kid from that marriage?
Back to restaurants, the best ethnic restaurants aren't in diverse neighborhoods, they are in the majority ethnic neighborhood where that type of food came.
If you want a neighborhood with a decent amount of gay people because you ar gay, it's perfectly reasonable to ask for that type of neighborhood instead of just asking for diverse.
In the Houston section, I've seen a number of posts from gay people looking for neighborhoods with a gay presence, and I see nothing wrong with that.
It seems those looking for such are asking about it and throwing out this vague "diversity".
Like I've said, those asking for this broad diversity seem to be white people with esteem issues for the most part.
I think it depends on the locality and the person's perception of diversity. For instance, the Southeast is majority white with a high number of blacks and tiny percentage of Hispanics and Asians. A black-white couple wouldn't expect a neighborhood to have lots of Asians and Hispanics, so when they use the word "diverse" they're really talking about a black-white mix, a neighborhood neither lily white nor jet black. I have seen Canadians on the C-D forums insisting that their country is "diverse" because of immigration which is still under 10%, and the subethnic groups of different whites. But to us as Americans they aren't diverse at all.
True about the restaurants, but this is a secret those of us in big cities with large ethnic populations know!
Nope. If you read farther you will see I stated I enjoy being around my own people. People I share a culture/heritage/language with. On top of the fact the reason the schools suck is because 70% of the students don't understand English in ANY form....The crime FOLLOWS these people. It did not affect me when we lived in the smaller town.
Didn't see it until after I replied.
70% seems awfully, awfully high. Are you near the border or something?
I have not read any of the other posts, but my take is that either they (people who are looking for a "diverse" neighborhood) are either not part of the majority or else they just want to live in a neighborhood with various cultures (i.e., they would be bored living where everyone is the same race, religion, etc.).
Personally, I don't think anything in that regard is wrong -- with either wanting to live with other people like you are OR wanting to live in a neighborhood with lots of different "types". (I am definitely against both forced integration and forced segregation, however! People should be able to live wherever they want that they can afford.)
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This is the order in which I decide where to live:
1. Cost - Can I afford to live here? If not, nothing else matters.
2. Crime rate
3. Proximity to job
4. Proximity to everything else, including different types of restaurants.
Neither. "Diversity" is everywhere to people who aren't racists or elitists of some form or another. EVERY human is unique, therefore if you are around humans, you ARE experiencing diversity, even if they are all "white" or whatever arbitrary category of human
So I would say that people that seek "diversity" don't recognize that everyone is an individual and they see people as monotonous elements of fictional homogeneous "groups" that don't even exist. Basically, they are ignorant to reality.
Exactly. I get the sense, and I could be wrong, that most white people seeking out a diverse neighborhood feel it is a status symbol - "Look how diverse and open minded I am. I embrace diversity."
Like I said, you don't need to live in a diverse neighborhood to look past race, learn about other cultures or to be friends with people of other ethnicities. It almost seems that striving for that diverse neighborhood gives an excuse to actually make any effort to expand your horizons.
Personally, I think it's more important WHY an area is diverse or not than how diverse it is.
For example, being from the Midwest, there are a lot of small towns that are almost exclusively white because that's how historical settlement patterns worked (and because of sundown towns, but mostly because of economic reasons.) Many of them have small black, Hispanic, and Asian populations that fit in just fine. I'd have no problems living in a town like that; in fact, I've worked in them before and sort of live in one now. It's cool.
My observation is that if a neighborhood is intentionally 95% white and the surrounding area clearly is not, then there are likely to be attitudes present in that neighborhood that I would rather not associate with. In that case, I'd rather look for a "diverse" neighborhood where "keeping the minorities out" is not a priority of many of the residents. I'd feel the same way about a mostly black or Hispanic neighborhood for the same reasons. So it has nothing to do with being a "badge" for me.
Neither. "Diversity" is everywhere to people who aren't racists or elitists of some form or another. EVERY human is unique, therefore if you are around humans, you ARE experiencing diversity, even if they are all "white" or whatever arbitrary category of human
So I would say that people that seek "diversity" don't recognize that everyone is an individual and they see people as monotonous elements of fictional homogeneous "groups" that don't even exist. Basically, they are ignorant to reality.
So you want folks to get to know individuals and learn about them thru conversations?
But who will I fear, hate, and sic the State on as I blame the "other" for all the troubles in the world?
Diversity of a neighborhood is a huge factor in choosing a neighborhood.
I love a community where people are different racially. I'm not writing about a place where everyone pulls into their garage and shuts the door. There has to be a sense of place and community to go along with.
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