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Old 11-08-2009, 11:23 AM
 
Location: The Woods
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The four counties are Bighorn, 48th poorest; Roosevelt, 71st; Glacier, 84th and Wheatland, 93rd.

Lowest-income counties in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Comparing two maps (linked below), Bighorn County looks to be about 80% Native American land, with the remaining held privately. Roosevelt looks about 50/50 Native American/private. Glacier about 40/40 Native American/private, with the other 20% mostly Glacier National Park. Outside of a small corner of national forest land, Wheatland is virtually all private property.

So no, it doesn't appear to be a problem caused by federal ownerhip of land.

http://nris.mt.gov/gis/gisdatalib/downloads/ab105.gif
http://nris.mt.gov/gis/gisdatalib/downloads/ct4.gif
Okay, Indian Reservations...those are poor pretty much everywhere...
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Old 11-08-2009, 11:24 AM
 
Location: The Woods
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Obama wasn't president last year. I wrote "a non-existent infringement of gun rights." What Obama said a year ago does not amount to an infringement of rights. And since no one's guns have been taken away since the inauguration, there are still no rights being violated. It seems like Chicken Little to me, but that's what the Republicans do.
He was elected last year and part of his platform was gun control. I suspect if there had not been the response there was by the people and states, he wouldn't have backed off.
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Old 11-08-2009, 11:25 AM
 
Location: The Woods
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Hypothetically if Montana did secede they would become the responsibility of the State until the Federal Government bombed Montana back into the Stone Age and then moved in and hung the Traitors
Many Western states want federal lands put into private hands. I imagine we'd see something like the Homestead Act if one of those states seceded to handle the federal lands. Some might be retained by the state for forests/parks.
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Old 11-08-2009, 11:28 AM
 
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Homestead for a bedstead.

Sounds OK.
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Old 11-08-2009, 11:43 AM
 
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He was elected last year and part of his platform was gun control. I suspect if there had not been the response there was by the people and states, he wouldn't have backed off.
Perhaps. What I know is that there is no such backlash in Nevada, and we all have guns here. I don't know what triggers this reaction in Montana. Myself, I've had the same gun since '78, and no one has come to take it from me. That's six administrations, and today's fears are no different than what I've heard for 30 years.
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Old 11-08-2009, 11:49 AM
 
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Many Western states want federal lands put into private hands. I imagine we'd see something like the Homestead Act if one of those states seceded to handle the federal lands. Some might be retained by the state for forests/parks.
Yes, that is what we're concerned about here. Nevada is "checkerboarded" along the routes of the old rail lines. Most of the mountain ranges are BLM or National Forest, and the military occupies most of the southeatern part of the state. I haven't heard much lately, but we have made attempts to get this land back from the feds.
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Old 11-08-2009, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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Many Western states want federal lands put into private hands. I imagine we'd see something like the Homestead Act if one of those states seceded to handle the federal lands. Some might be retained by the state for forests/parks.

you mean you would BUY them.
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Old 11-08-2009, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Earth
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Perhaps. What I know is that there is no such backlash in Nevada, and we all have guns here. I don't know what triggers this reaction in Montana. Myself, I've had the same gun since '78, and no one has come to take it from me. That's six administrations, and today's fears are no different than what I've heard for 30 years.
Neither my husband nor I had guns when we lived in Las Vegas.
So, the "we all have guns here" might be an exaggeration.
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Old 11-08-2009, 02:07 PM
 
Location: Washington DC
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This past legislative session, Arizona passed a somewhat similar "referendum" - to consider secession if 2nd Amendment rights were screwed with.
Arizona would revert to a territory if no longer a state. It can't possibly have a right to secede. It was never anything before. Perhaps we should sell it back to Mexico.
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Old 11-08-2009, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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Arizona would revert to a territory if no longer a state. It can't possibly have a right to secede. It was never anything before. Perhaps we should sell it back to Mexico.
Your opinion is basically meaningless.

Some 20 + states have taken similar actions.
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