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The Nazis were leftist liberals! LMAO!!! Really? The Nazi's were far right. They were the party of the military and the top industrialists. Hitler, Ludendorff, Goering, were all military men. Ludendorff was one of Germany's top WW1 generals, Goering was Germany's WW1 air force commander, a role he filled again in WW2, Hitler was a corporal who had spent four years in the trenches of WW1, won the Iron Cross, and been wounded in a gas attack. The Nazi's came to power with the solid backing of the top military brass and the industrialists, and the middle class, whose economic woes the Nazi's scapegoated on minorities and, yes, wait for it...the poor. The Social Democrats were the party of the left, of the poor and the blue collar workers.
A leftist in Nazi Germany would have had to remain quiet or go into deep hiding. Advocacy for the rights of minorities, questioning doctrines of racial superiority, questioning whether the top industrialists were corralling too much of the nation's wealth, advocating free and independent labor unions, etc would not have endeared one to the officials.
Where the hell did you get the idea that leftist were pacifists? Its total crap. Nazis were socialists. They believed in central planning, end of story.
From the Communist Manifesto:
In depicting the most general phases of the development of the proletariat, we traced the more or less veiled civil war, raging within existing society, up to the point where that war breaks out into open revolution, and where the violent overthrow of the bourgeoisie lays the foundation for the sway of the proletariat.
Marxism did not even address minority rights. It was all based on class struggle. So it was in effect neutral.
Where does the right believe in a one party system? Both sides of our politics believe in democratic institutions . Fascists like one party in what can be called extreme central planning.
I am no friend of Austrian economics or Mises in general, but as a college Liberian once told me , Fascism sold as the opposite of socialism was a hoax , propagated by the leftists in this country. I observe the same thing.So did many others:
It was socialism applied to a single "race" , and they were not the only ones. As I said, Maoism did quite the same .
Its the left that uses the same identity politics, only to favor other "oppressed groups" . Market fundamentalists would suggest oppression is not possible in a market system.
If you think the government needs to solve it, its leftist position. If you think that the national guard should be sent in rather than encouraging people to move , its a leftist position. If you believe Federal oversight rather than local oversight you are a leftist. Central planning.
When the Chinese push nationalism, they are on the right.
No. Pushing nationalism at the government level is central planing. Its leftist. White flight is a "right" oriented nationalist position . So is Latino immigration given they steel with other Latinos. . So is black middle class flight.
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The nationalist socialist party in Germany was right-leaning. The Socialist Democrats were left-leaning. Which is why Hitler targeted them.
No. It was government planned and state controlled. Where do you get the idea that two leftist organizations naturally love each other?
No. Pushing nationalism at the government level is central planing. Its leftist. White flight is a "right" oriented position. So it black middle class flight.
No. It was government planned and state controlled. Where do yuo get the idea that two leftist organizations naturally love each other?
Socialism promotes globalism, so leftist.
Socialism promotes the workers owning the means of production, so leftist.
Fascism and socialism are not the same thing.
Communism and socialism are not the same thing.
And the Nazis were not socialists. They were fascists and nationalists.
"Distinct races with distinct capabilities" means white supremacy because the supposed capabilities are capabilities attributed to the "white race" are capabilities that white supremacists put a higher value on.
Oh, please. If that were true, why are so many Black NBA, NFL, etc., players paid so much more than Whites?
Socialism promotes the workers owning the means of production, so leftist.
That's Communism. Socialism is state central planning. If however Communism is a creation of explicit government policy , then its leftist. If its Christian communism or a Kibbutz , its voluntary and does not use state force. Not really a leftist position.
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Fascism and socialism are not the same thing.
They are which is why Nazi used the word socialism in it. The national part applied because they were interested in only being German. Thus they were German socialists. National Socialism. Say more slowly perhaps....Then you might hear it better.
But hey if you think German socialists are not socialists then yes means maybe.
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Communism and socialism are not the same thing.
Right , now make sure you actually define it right next time.
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And the Nazis were not socialists. They were fascists and nationalists.
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If that were true, why are so many Black NBA, NFL, etc., players paid so much more than Whites?