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Old 09-27-2016, 02:38 PM
 
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No. You are now laughably clueless. That definition is not Communism. Its Socialism. Communism and Socialism have collectivist principles because property is common....however...


Communism has no concept of the distribution of goods or its administration. Its fundamental principle is that there is no private property and one in need acquires what they need. An authority does not decide what you need. Its initiated by the one in need. Communism is "you go get it" and socialism is "here is what you get".


Both of them fall under collectivism but they are mutually exclusive in that category.

So you said its not a dog but an animal.

Yeah and you said blather....
Clueless??? LMAO.

That quote was from YOUR link, defining socialism. YOUR link, defining socialism.

You are so desperate to distance your distasteful ideology from Hitler that you try to distance yourself from YOUR link, defining socialism.

LMAO.

 
Old 09-27-2016, 02:43 PM
 
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Whites tend to create white culture, blacks create black culture and Asians create Asian culture. And mixing them all together creates latin America. If one wants to live in a black culture or Asian culture or mixed race culture they could just move to one of them. Why convert the US into some form of Brazil? One is enough.
People tend to create cultures that reflect their lives, needs and beliefs. Culture is not set in stone. It's constantly evolving, as people's lives, needs and beliefs change. There is no question of converting the US into another culture, because culture is not static. Culture is constantly changing, and those changes are a signs of health and progress.

While change may invoke fear in some, it is inevitable.
 
Old 09-27-2016, 02:45 PM
 
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Whites tend to create white culture, blacks create black culture and Asians create Asian culture. And mixing them all together creates latin America. If one wants to live in a black culture or Asian culture or mixed race culture they could just move to one of them. Why convert the US into some form of Brazil? One is enough.
As if cultures are all set in stone and mutually exclusive? You're sounding lot like the SJWs of the left and their disdain for "cultural appropriation"

Problem with what you say is, America is already a mixture of the different cultures of the different peoples who have come here, and is not a "pure white culture". And that's not even mentioning how whiteness in America is also a social construct that means Not Black and Not Asian but which otherwise has varied through the years...
 
Old 09-27-2016, 02:52 PM
 
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Clueless??? LMAO.

That quote was from YOUR link, defining socialism. YOUR link, defining socialism.

You are so desperate to distance your distasteful ideology from Hitler that you try to distance yourself from YOUR link, defining socialism.

LMAO.
Yes MY link defined socialism.


YOUR post defined communism, or at best collectivism, which you stated as socialism, prima facie evidence you don't know what you are talking about.



This was your comment:[indent][i]Socialism is the belief that the means of production should belong to the workers/community.

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Old 09-27-2016, 02:59 PM
 
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As if cultures are all set in stone and mutually exclusive? You're sounding lot like the SJWs of the left and their disdain for "cultural appropriation"

Problem with what you say is, America is already a mixture of the different cultures of the different peoples who have come here, and is not a "pure white culture". And that's not even mentioning how whiteness in America is also a social construct that means Not Black and Not Asian but which otherwise has varied through the years...
America was over 80% white European as late as the 1980s, and deducting for black over 92%. Now it's 63%. This country is quickly going down the tubes and being permanently and drastically altered socio-politically by mass non-western immigration. White was all understood as being of European descent.
 
Old 09-27-2016, 03:11 PM
 
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America was over 80% white European as late as the 1980s, and deducting for black over 92%. Now it's 63%. This country is quickly going down the tubes and being permanently and drastically altered socio-politically by mass non-western immigration. White was all understood as being of European descent.
not really.... before WW2 Southern Europeans who were predominantly Catholic were looked upon as second-class citizens and subject to discrimination in jobs, housing & education. The only reason the quotas were lifted in the 1800's was that these "Catholic hordes" were needed as a source of cheap labor for industrialization after the Civil War. They filled the same role as modern-day Hispanic immigrants and were the butt of similar jokes & reprisals.
 
Old 09-27-2016, 03:13 PM
 
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America was over 80% white European as late as the 1980s, and deducting for black over 92%. Now it's 63%. This country is quickly going down the tubes and being permanently and drastically altered socio-politically by mass non-western immigration. White was all understood as being of European descent.

Actually I would just call it American white. Europeans did not succeed at the same level.They were infighting. American whites were more or less much more homogeneous and assimilated. The most important factor was they did not infight for a very long time, since the 1860s. Europe did not cease doing so until the 1950s. Then they stopped infighting.

Now we just want to start in fighting again I guess by importing hostiles. Why? Got me.
 
Old 09-27-2016, 03:14 PM
 
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America was over 80% white European as late as the 1980s, and deducting for black over 92%. Now it's 63%. This country is quickly going down the tubes and being permanently and drastically altered socio-politically by mass non-western immigration. White was all understood as being of European descent.
Actually, this is not true. As funny as it seems to us now, the Irish were not considered white when they first started coming to America in the 1800's. In fact books, not unlike the Bell Curve, were written to explain using junk science why the Irish were not white.

Italians weren't considered white, either, nor were European Jews or south Slavs. They were referred to as "colored". It was only in the 1920's that people from these ethnic groups started winning the right in court to the rights held by white Americans. Amazing, isn't it?
 
Old 09-27-2016, 03:14 PM
 
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not really.... before WW2 Southern Europeans who were predominantly Catholic were looked upon as second-class citizens and subject to discrimination in jobs, housing & education. The only reason the quotas were lifted in the 1800's was that these "Catholic hordes" were needed as a source of cheap labor for industrialization after the Civil War. They filled the same role as modern-day Hispanic immigrants and were the butt of similar jokes & reprisals.

Child's play compared to Wales and England during the same period.
 
Old 09-27-2016, 03:18 PM
 
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As if cultures are all set in stone and mutually exclusive? You're sounding lot like the SJWs of the left and their disdain for "cultural appropriation"

Problem with what you say is, America is already a mixture of the different cultures of the different peoples who have come here, and is not a "pure white culture". And that's not even mentioning how whiteness in America is also a social construct that means Not Black and Not Asian but which otherwise has varied through the years...

Sounds more like he's talking about cultural destruction, not cultural appropriation.
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