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It doesn't matter that it wasn't in the discussion. I never said it was. I said that in this political climate with the media and the Dems themselves saying that the Dem Party has abandoned white working class America, something as flippant as the Dems don't need white people in leadership would be seen as further indication to those making the claim that Dems don't like white people.
It wasn't flippant, at all. And it wasn't some tactical error that "would be seen" in a bad light. The woman honestly stated her belief that the Democratic Party is now the party of diversity and should not be led by a white person.
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Malarkey and if that is how Dems think then NO WONDER you guys lost. White people do not set out to debate these issues on behalf of white people. You have lobbyists though who do campaign on behalf of certain identities. They play the politics of identity.
You haven't made anything simple, you've actually complicated and deconstructed a simple issue as though it were literary criticism. No one needs to read between the lines because ANYONE can get behind those issues regardless of race.
By identity politics I meant using certain demographics to advocate for their interests and only their interests.
I fully understand what you mean by identity politics, and you have every right to use your definition, but are you denying that politicians go out an lobby or advocate for certain groups of people on certain issues ??????
if not, then you fully understand what my post is about, you simply dont view those as "identity", and if so, then what do you call it ????
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So only white people can care about the 2nd amendment? Pro-life? Family values?
No, and I never claimed so, but just because people of all races are apart of a group, it doesnt make it any less of a constituency issue for that group ?
It wasn't flippant, at all. And it wasn't some tactical error that "would be seen" in a bad light. The woman honestly stated her belief that the Democratic Party is now the party of diversity and should not be led by a white person.
In my first post I said I gave her the benefit of the doubt. MY point was that it was poor choice of words given the climate and would be misconstrued as further proof that the Dems don't care about white people.
The Party is so full of hate that they are now the true Racist. After Shultz and Brazil total faliue to the party and the voters the DNC will continue to lose seats.
I fully understand what you mean by identity politics, and you have every right to use your definition, but are you denying that politicians go out an lobby or advocate for certain groups of people on certain issues ??????
if not, then you fully understand what my post is about, you simply dont view those as "identity", and if so, then what do you call it ????
No, and I never claimed so, but just because people of all races are apart of a group, it doesnt make it any less of a constituency issue for that group ?
The GOP has been begging for people of color to break away from the Dems and go to them. A black Republican is treated like a king in the party and not because he's token but because they actually like it when people break away from the Dems. This doesn't mean they will ignore their base which is white Middle America but they don't try to neglect one for the other like the Dems did in favor of a coalition of minorities in the metro areas.
The Dems dropped the mantle of class in favor of identity. That was evident when they ousted Bernie in favor of corporate shill Hillary. They played on the bet that minorities, gays, women and the metros would make up for their dropping of white working class middle America.
The difference is that the GOP didn't change their platform but were trying to be more inclusive. The Dems dropped their populist platform to play up identity and incorporate a base of mostly minorities and urban cosmopolitan dwellers.
In my first post I said I gave her the benefit of the doubt. MY point was that it was poor choice of words given the climate and would be misconstrued as further proof that the Dems don't care about white people.
No doubt, no wrongly chosen words, and no misconstruing - elements of the Democratic Party clearly want to embrace a non-white identity.
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no s@#*
You argued that there was an improvement, but a percentage improvement is basically an improvement in name only when black turnout is down.
Conservative black men voted at the same rate while liberal black men decreased in rate.
in short, no flipped vote, just less people voting from one side.
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