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Old 12-14-2016, 04:57 PM
 
Location: Hougary, Texberta
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Japan has some of the toughest immigration laws and very difficult to obtain citizenship. The US hands out citizenship like free samples. 1st come 1st serve.
Clearly you don't know what it takes to become a US citizen. Secondly Japan is dying economically because of their horrible immigration laws (and incredible racism).
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Old 12-14-2016, 05:00 PM
 
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There are 11 million illegal immigrants in America, that is close to half the whole population of Australia who are living here illegally. 42.4 million foreign-born people are living in the United States. It is insane numbers, really amazing to watch this rise since the 1970s/1980s
And worse, what that graph doesn't tell you is in ~1900 the immigrants were still almost all Europeans, workers were needed and they weren't a public charge and the government wasn't on some SJW race and culture campaign. And despite all that it still a mistake to allow that much immigration and foreign enfluence in and was addressed in 1924. Today, we have super-energized and globalized what was a mistake for 50 years and counting.
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Old 12-14-2016, 05:32 PM
 
Location: Brisbane
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There are 11 million illegal immigrants in America, that is close to half the whole population of Australia who are living here illegally. 42.4 million foreign-born people are living in the United States. It is insane numbers, really amazing to watch this rise since the 1970s/1980s
Australia (a much smaller country of course) is currently more than 28% foreign born. Almost 1/4 people don't speak English at home and 1/2 the population have at least one parent born in another country.

Yet we are still continually attacked by the left for been unfriendly to immigrants, and having too tight restrictions on immigration. Its ridiculous really.
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Old 01-28-2017, 05:47 PM
 
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So many countries have tough immigration laws, it would be interesting to treally compare all the immigration laws around the world
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Old 01-28-2017, 06:33 PM
 
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This forum is relatively anonymous in that a casual user browsing the site won't know who I am. They'd have to hack it to figure it out, and that's a lot of effort for most people.

However, I've said the exact same thing out loud to other people, though I don't say it at work for obvious reasons. And I'd never post it on Facebook (or Twitter, if I used Twitter).
Agreed. And this huge stigma on us speaking our minds is a lot of the same reason Trump won. Its not that we're ashamed of our views, more like the opposite, but there is little incentive to be bullied or shunned by the many confrontational or immature leftists in our day to day lives. We're the hundreds of people who see but never click "like" on anything liberal that someone posts on Facebook. A silent majority, but we'll be more publicly vocal in days to come

Leftists are far more out in the open about "their" opinions, and my Facebook feed for me is sadly an ideal example of that. If only they took their concern about "racism" and switched it with something useful like infrastructure improvement we'd all be 100 times better off and 100 times more united.
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Old 01-28-2017, 06:36 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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It is really interesting to see so many counties immigration laws and compare them with americas porous borders , from mexico to europe to asia and all over the world, many nations are cracking down on illegal immigration or never allowed much of it in the first place

"In Monday's Talking Points Memo, Bill O'Reilly responded to plans by the Obama administration to accept about 2,000 people who had illegally immigrated to Australia, but were deported by the government and sent to a remote area of the South Pacific.

Australia believes illegal immigrants will destabilize their country, and the nation's military is in charge of immigration, O'Reilly said.

But, in the United States, anti-illegal immigration advocates are seen as not being compassionate to refugees.

"Liberal zealotry sees America as a nation driven by white privilege and wants to flood the USA with new citizens," he noted, and laid out what a fair policy might be for the incoming Trump administration to consider.

O'Reilly wondered why there is no condemnation of Australia's tough policies on illegal immigration and asylum-seekers, noting that both liberals and conservatives there support the policies with "little moral debate."

He explained that if a city in Australia declared itself a "sanctuary" for those in the country illegally, it would have "big trouble" with the military, which enforces the law. "


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HlzkBRyXEM
Trying to change the subject, eh?

Who gives a rat's behind about Australia?
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Old 01-28-2017, 07:03 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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The big difference between Australia and US is Australia doesn't tolerate illegal workers being employed by businesses. In the US lobbyist have very successfully kept the laws so that businesses can hire illegal workers when caught claim they had no idea the person was not legal. There was a push to force businesses to use E-Verify but lobbyist mostly from the us chamber of commerce was able to gut the penalty's only in states where state law requires it have they been using e-verify. If hiring illegals had a fine of 30% annual gross profits and prison for the owners or CEO that would end the practice overnight. That will never happen and any attempt at immigration or building walls will not change anything.
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Old 01-28-2017, 07:26 PM
 
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The big difference between Australia and US is Australia doesn't tolerate illegal workers being employed by businesses. In the US lobbyist have very successfully kept the laws so that businesses can hire illegal workers when caught claim they had no idea the person was not legal. There was a push to force businesses to use E-Verify but lobbyist mostly from the us chamber of commerce was able to gut the penalty's only in states where state law requires it have they been using e-verify. If hiring illegals had a fine of 30% annual gross profits and prison for the owners or CEO that would end the practice overnight. That will never happen and any attempt at immigration or building walls will not change anything.
Excellent post. This is why I believe the republican party would be very vulnerable to a true right wing third party if our two party system allowed it. The outsourcing of jobs and lost manufacturing , globalism, free trade and illegal immigration was a big part of the republican/conservative agenda

America was 80% white when reagan took office, its 63% now and government is bigger and more incompetent now than ever. George W. Bush was way more left wing on immigration and race than many white socialists in the 1920s like Jack London, etc. lol

Conservatism was a complete fraud and a joke, its all nationalism and populism now on the right
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Old 01-28-2017, 10:05 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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White race in America has been in decline for years I would not say the government has changed much George H Bush signed the amnesty law which instantly made millions of illegal immigrants legal immigrants. It only caused more to come here because they know if you stick around long enough be able to get to stay legally .
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