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Old 12-28-2016, 05:40 AM
 
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Meh, I don't care.

I have my own plane.
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Old 12-28-2016, 05:41 AM
 
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Meh, I don't care.

I have my own plane.
Nice!
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Old 12-28-2016, 05:42 AM
 
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According to the Obama administration getting an ID is an apparently Herculean impossible task, so none should be required to vote.

According to the Obama administration getting an "approved" ID is an apparently so simple a task, one should be required to fly.

Lib logic...isn't.
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Old 12-28-2016, 05:43 AM
 
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That date is only to fly. If you go to the TSA link: https://www.dhs.gov/real-id-enforcement-brief and hover your curser over the non-compliant states; you will see that some government facilities will restrict this non-compliant ID this coming January.

PS The bigger question is: Why haven't these states complied when they had 11 years?
Montana flat out refused citing cost.

Get a passport card. $49
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Old 12-28-2016, 05:44 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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According to the Obama administration getting an ID is an apparently Herculean impossible task, so none should be required to vote.

According to the Obama administration getting an "approved" ID is an apparently so simple a task, one should be required to fly.

Lib logic...isn't.
Something you missed in your "logic", is that voting is a constitutional right.
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Old 12-28-2016, 05:51 AM
 
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Something you missed in your "logic", is that voting is a constitutional right.
Freedom of movement is also protected by the Constitution.

See: The Privileges and Immunities Clause of Article IV
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Old 12-28-2016, 05:51 AM
 
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Something you missed in your "logic", is that voting is a constitutional right.
Either getting an ID is as tortuous as the libs say, or it is not.

Also there is no explicit right to vote in the US Constitution.
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Old 12-28-2016, 05:53 AM
 
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Either getting an ID is as tortuous as the libs say, or it is not.

Also there is no explicit right to vote in the US Constitution.
15th Amendment:

The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.
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Old 12-28-2016, 05:57 AM
 
Location: Alabama
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LOL I have none of those.

I have my driver's license, birth certificate and social security card.
And that should be all we need.
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Old 12-28-2016, 05:57 AM
 
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15th Amendment:

The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.
Nice try. That is implicit. You libs have been chomping to get a Constitutional amendment passed with an explicit right to vote for sometime so as to ensure voter fraud remains an available tactic.

Democrats want to add right to vote to the Constitution | MSNBC

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At its winter meeting Saturday in Florida, the Democratic National Committee unanimously passed a resolution that supports “amending the United States Constitution to explicitly guarantee an individual’s right to vote.” The DNC also said it would urge state parties to push for statewide referenda backing the idea, and pledged to create a “Right to Vote Task Force” to offer ideas on how to protect voting rights.
The Missing Right: A Constitutional Right to Vote : Democracy Journal

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In order to become a naturalized citizen of the United States, until recently you had to answer this question: “What is the most important right granted to U.S. citizens?” The correct answer, according to the United States government, was, “The right to vote.” But that “right” has always been on shaky ground. Just as the Constitution once countenanced slavery, it also allowed voting to be restricted to property-holding white men. The Thirteenth Amendment expunged the stain of slavery from our basic law, but the Constitution has never fulfilled the democratic promise we associate with it. Put simply—and this is surprising to many people—there is no constitutional guarantee of the right to vote. Qualifications to vote in House and Senate elections are decided by each state, and the Supreme Court affirmed in Bush v. Gore that “[t]he individual citizen has no federal constitutional right to vote for electors for the President of the United States.”
The U.S. Needs a Constitutional Right to Vote - The Atlantic

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Many, if not most, Americans are unaware that the Constitution contains no explicit right to vote. To be sure, such a right is implicit in the Fifteenth, Nineteenth, and Twenty-Sixth amendments that deal with voting discrimination based on race, gender, and age. But the lack of an explicit right opens the door to the courts' ratifying the sweeping kinds of voter-restrictions and voter-suppression tactics that are becoming depressingly common.
tl;dr the Constitution only states why you can't be denied a vote (based on race, age, gender). It never states that you actually have the affirmative explicit right to vote.
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