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Old 12-28-2016, 06:14 AM
 
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I'm not trying to do anything. All I meant that if the right to vote is obviously understood and it is mentioned in the Constitution, then, yes, we do have that right. Save your attitude for someone else.
Except you're wrong because if it was "obviously understood" it wouldn't always be in the courts.
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Old 12-28-2016, 06:17 AM
 
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I don't know where you deduced that Voter ID's are null and void.
No, I meant the idea of them are null and void as it concerns the liberal stance on them.
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Old 12-28-2016, 06:17 AM
 
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That's frustrating. I've never left this country and have no desire to do so. Yet now I need to go get a passport, which I've never had. Why? Because my governor is an a$$-hat.
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Old 12-28-2016, 06:17 AM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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I'd like to think there would be some additional benefits to people and the states they live in if their licenses weren't so easy to forge.
I like ID and I don't mind the new regulations. However; I don't like the fact that my State is one of the nine states that are not compliant. I also don't like the fact that we waited until the last minute to discuss this problem. I have to presume that, in 2005 when the legislation was first passed, that each state accordingly took a position - but I think my State did not really make that position clear or let us fully understand the consequences to not complying.
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Old 12-28-2016, 06:19 AM
 
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Except you're wrong because if it was "obviously understood" it wouldn't always be in the courts.
I'd like to see how you'd react upon being turned away at the voting booth. I'm sure you'd just take in stride, right?

I guess all those things telling voters to contact their local voting office if they have problems voting are unnecessary right?

https://www.votingrightsinstitute.org/report/
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Old 12-28-2016, 06:20 AM
 
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I like ID and I don't mind the new regulations. However; I don't like the fact that my State is one of the nine states that are not compliant. I also don't like the fact that we waited until the last minute to discuss this problem. I have to presume that, in 2005 when the legislation was first passed, that each state accordingly took a position - but I think my State did not really make that position clear or let us fully understand the consequences to not complying.
No doubt about it. Several states basically didn't make it a priority and dropped the ball on this one.

I mean seriously, it's not like they can't just copy what one of the other 41 states have done and go with whatever vendor is cheapest.

I'd heard Illinois was non-compliant as well but wasn't on the list unless I just read over it too fast.
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Old 12-28-2016, 06:21 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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You make a lot of assumptions. I frequently travel on planes and don't have a passport because I've no need of one.

It makes me chuckle that those so against government intrusion eat this **** up with a spoon.
Obama had 8 years to abolish the TSA. He didn't.

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The point is it is yet another cost targeting the middle class.
Obama has never been for the middle class, so why are you surprised now?
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Old 12-28-2016, 06:23 AM
 
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I like ID and I don't mind the new regulations. However; I don't like the fact that my State is one of the nine states that are not compliant. I also don't like the fact that we waited until the last minute to discuss this problem. I have to presume that, in 2005 when the legislation was first passed, that each state accordingly took a position - but I think my State did not really make that position clear or let us fully understand the consequences to not complying.
You probably wouldn't mind being micro-chipped either. Good citizen.
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Old 12-28-2016, 06:23 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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No doubt about it. Several states basically didn't make it a priority and dropped the ball on this one.

I mean seriously, it's not like they can't just copy what one of the other 41 states have done and go with whatever vendor is cheapest.

I'd heard Illinois was non-compliant as well but wasn't on the list unless I just read over it too fast.

Several states like NY, Ill got extensions to October 2017


https://www.dhs.gov/real-id-enforcement-brief
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Old 12-28-2016, 06:24 AM
 
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I don't think I've ever flown without my passport as an adult. It's just easier I guess, less scrutiny or potential for issues when all I want to do is get through as quickly and painlessly as possible.
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