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Old 12-29-2016, 10:26 PM
 
Location: Gone
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...and Donald Trump will never be President.
There will still be No Wall
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Old 12-29-2016, 10:30 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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Just a wall is not going to solve anything. Military securing the border, problem solved. No wall needed. Too much money, less effective.
You need both. You can't just build the wall and go home. All that a wall would do is to create an impediment to slow things down, giving time for the border patrol to take action. A huge wall will turn 95% of casual border crossers around. Nowadays is a walk in the park. They go for a family stroll and end up on the US side. Now, if by the military you mean mining the border, well...
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Old 12-29-2016, 10:37 PM
 
Location: Gone
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You need both. You can't just build the wall and go home. All that a wall would do is to create an impediment to slow things down, giving time for the border patrol to take action. A huge wall will turn 95% of casual border crossers around. Nowadays is a walk in the park. They go for a family stroll and end up on the US side. Now, if by the military you mean mining the border, well...
Oh and some machine guns sweeping the border of those evil women and children trying to better their lives, yes that will fix em.
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Old 01-07-2017, 04:59 PM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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I do believe Trump is serious about building the wall, and that we need one. I do think that illegal immigration will be significantly curtailed.

Anyone else think the cartels may be desperate to stop it when their existence is threatened?

Pablo Escobar did engage on a campaign of terrorism in Colombia in the 1980s as the authorities were closing in on him. But if the cartels go out of business, the gangs in Central America that are allegedly making it so violent down there will also be out of business.

Then liberals will probably still argue that economic migrants are justified in coming here illegally.
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Old 01-07-2017, 05:03 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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The cartels will just continue building tunnels and smuggling drugs in on planes and ships.
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Old 01-07-2017, 08:46 PM
 
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The cartels will just continue building tunnels and smuggling drugs in on planes and ships.

Yeah, let's just throw in the towel and do nothing because we can't end illegal immigration and drug smuggling 100%. I love the defeatist attitude.
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Old 01-07-2017, 08:54 PM
 
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Yeah, let's just throw in the towel and do nothing because we can't end illegal immigration and drug smuggling 100%. I love the defeatist attitude.
Now that pot is becoming legal in the US there will be no drug smuggling of it.
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Old 01-07-2017, 09:32 PM
 
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Not a damn thing.

Wanna defeat the cartels? Legalize drugs.

Cartels have more money, time on their hands, and innovation than governments do. To think that walls can do what even oceans can't do is inanity at its best.
I agree legalizing drugs would cripple the cartel. But that is not happening anytime soon. Most drugs entering the USA come across the border in areas where there is little border security, not across the ocean. Building a wall and improving border security will have a huge effect on drug trafficking. Not totally stop it but make it much more difficult. People sneak drugs right though the border checkpoints but I just don't get the attitude that doing nothing is acceptable.

Why do you think Mexico is against the wall? If they really felt it would be ineffective they would not be so strongly against it.

On top of that you have the human smuggling that the cartels are involved in. People with criminal records, people previously deported, people from the middle east. If someone sneaks over the border in the desert risking death and arrest the likely have issues that we don't need here.
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Old 01-07-2017, 09:38 PM
 
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I agree legalizing drugs would cripple the cartel. But that is not happening anytime soon. Most drugs entering the USA come across the border in areas where there is little border security, not across the ocean. Building a wall and improving border security will have a huge effect on drug trafficking. Not totally stop it but make it much more difficult. People sneak drugs right though the border checkpoints but I just don't get the attitude that doing nothing is acceptable.

Why do you think Mexico is against the wall? If they really felt it would be ineffective they would not be so strongly against it.

On top of that you have the human smuggling that the cartels are involved in. People with criminal records, people previously deported, people from the middle east. If someone sneaks over the border in the desert risking death and arrest the likely have issues that we don't need here.
Why are you worrying about illegal drugs entering the US. We should be worrying about legal drugs prescribed in our country, like opiates. This is an epidemic we should be focused on
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Old 01-07-2017, 09:42 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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If you stop the cartels what of the million drug addiction the USA?
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