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Trump just needs to seize the assets of all the illegal aliens to finance the wall. Anything that the illegal aliens own is ill gotten gains. The estimated 11 million illegal aliens should have more than enough assets to pay for the wall,
Symbolic wall, symbolic payments for the symbolic wall, symbolic arguments about symbolic payments for a symbolic wall.
Trump does not trade in reality. He trades in symbolism, just like any salesman.
I'll believe his BS the day the Senate passes the bill to pay for the wall, but not until then. And I sure won't hold my breath until the passage comes.
Trump just needs to seize the assets of all the illegal aliens to finance the wall. Anything that the illegal aliens own is ill gotten gains. The estimated 11 million illegal aliens should have more than enough assets to pay for the wall,
Sure that is a great solution.
And who exactly is going to find all those 'illegal aliens' and then find their 'assets?' The birther investigation squad?
Who will pay for all of this investigating? That alone would cost more money than the wall.
Then, after the government spends all that money investigating and finding these 'illegal aliens' and their 'assets,' someone then has to pay to fight them in court.
Trump supporters seem to conveniently forget about those laws.
And, btw, would that mean Melania has to forfeit all the 'ill-gotten gains' that she acquired while illegally working here? This could prove rather thorny.
Symbolic wall, symbolic payments for the symbolic wall, symbolic arguments about symbolic payments for a symbolic wall.
Trump does not trade in reality. He trades in symbolism, just like any salesman.
I'll believe his BS the day the Senate passes the bill to pay for the wall, but not until then. And I sure won't hold my breath until the passage comes.
It's still just another of Trump's lies. Trump has said from day ONE Mexico will pay for the wall - so even if Senate passes the bill, he has lied about who is paying for it.
His statement that Mexico will pay for the wall has become US will pay for the wall.
It's all lies - until he tells us exactly HOW Mexico will pay for this wall. Reduced foreign aid? What?
Haar! It's not going to be built for the same reason your immigration laws haven't been observed ...greedy Americans making a profit off cheap labour.
Which is a change of argument from "it can't be done."
All around the world, universally, persons and organizations change arguments when they have been beaten on a point.
If you want to make another useless, idiotic point, go right ahead. But let us put the knife in the idea that it cannot be done one and for all.
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Senator John McCain ran up against this reality back in the good old days when the big aggra business in Arizona convinced him to "hands off" their ability to hire illegals picking stuff cheaply to offset the costs of nutrients to grow stuff in gravel.
Please. Kicking out illegals would spur mechanization and innovation. Regardless, wealth transer via allowing big business to use slave labor and re-distribute the cost to citizens, whose taxes pay for their welafre, ESL, crime and emergency room visits is not acceptable, and you should be ashamed. You are basically both supporting slavery and siding with big business over the little guy. Not very progressive of you, except that your party no longer cares about the little guy, only identity politics. Really, you should be ashamed.
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You people are really stupid if you think Trumps going to put a spike in the spokes of the wheels that helped make him rich.
I am much, much smarter than you are. We have benen over the liberal chest thumping as well- merely telling everyone that you are smart does not make you so. You are not impressing anyone, just showing that you are support slavery and big business.
On day 1 promulgate a "proposed rule" (regulation) amending 31
CFR 130.121 to redefine applicable financial institutions to include
money transfer companies like Western Union, and redefine "account" to
includewire transfers. Also include in the proposed rule a requirement that
no alien may wire money outside of the United States unless the alien
first provides a document establishing his lawful presence in the United
States.
On day 2 Mexico will immediately protest. They receive approximately $24
billion a year in remittances from Mexican nationals working in the United
States. The majority of that amount comes from illegal aliens. It serves as de
facto welfare for poor families in Mexico. There is no significant social safety
net provided by the state in Mexico.
On day 3 tell Mexico that if the Mexican government will contribute the funds
needed to the United States to pay for the wall, the Trump Administration will
not promulgate the final rule, and the regulation will not go into effect.
Trade tariffs, or enforcement of existing trade rules: There is no doubt that
Mexico is engaging in unfair subsidy behavior that has eliminated thousands
of U.S. jobs, and which we are obligated to respond to; the impact of any tariffs
on the price imports will be more than offset by the economic and income
gains of increased production in the United States, in addition to revenue from
any tariffs themselves. Mexico needs access to our markets much more than
the reverse, so we have all the leverage and will win the negotiation. By
definition, if you have a large trade deficit with a nation, it means they are
selling far more to you than the reverse - thus they, not you, stand to lose from
enforcing trade rules through tariffs (as has been done to save many U.S.
industries in the past).
It goes on for a bit with other options, all of which can be done solely by the President, all of which are based on current law.
Which is a change of argument from "it can't be done."
All around the world, universally, persons and organizations change arguments when they have been beaten on a point.
If you want to make another useless, idiotic point, go right ahead. But let us put the knife in the idea that it cannot be done one and for all.
Please. Kicking out illegals would spur mechanization and innovation. Regardless, wealth transer via allowing big business to use slave labor and re-distribute the cost to citizens, whose taxes pay for their welafre, ESL, crime and emergency room visits is not acceptable, and you should be ashamed. You are basically both supporting slavery and siding with big business over the little guy. Not very progressive of you, except that your party no longer cares about the little guy, only identity politics. Really, you should be ashamed.
I am much, much smarter than you are. We have benen over the liberal chest thumping as well- merely telling everyone that you are smart does not make you so. You are not impressing anyone, just showing that you are support slavery and big business.
They will pay indirectly through visa fees that will be increased and export fees for exporting to USA!
Mexico says it will retaliate by levying fees on US interests, businesses, and tourists in Mexico.
If walls are so effective, what "wall" kept out Haitian, Dominican, Jamaican, Cuban or any other group of undocumented immigrant? Not to mention South American, Asian, Asian or Africans that are here illegally? Ever been to Florida?
Mexico says it will retaliate by levying fees on US interests, businesses, and tourists in Mexico.
If walls are so effective, what "wall" kept out Haitian, Dominican, Jamaican, Cuban or any other group of undocumented immigrant? Not to mention South American, Asian, Asian or Africans that are here illegally? Ever been to Florida?
Yeah, let's start a trade war with Mexico - that sounds like a smart idea. The fact that nearly 70% of our fresh vegis imports and nearly 40% our our fresh fruits come from Mexico (more if you include those items that are brought THROUGH Mexico) isn't really relevant right? Heck the American people won't mind if the prices of fruit and vegis skyrocket because of a trade war. They'll gladly pay way more for food.
Right?
RIGHT?
Those RWNJ just don't understand the fact that a trade war with Mexico will hurt EVERYONE - including THEM.
You are posting too many useless threads. Have a glass of ice water and take a break.
How about a full bottle of Jack Daniels instead. Maybe he'll doze off to sleep.
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