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Old 01-30-2017, 09:56 AM
 
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I don't believe that men should be able to just walk away either, but that is exactly what the culture of abortion has done: it has alleviated men from the responsibility of taking care of their offspring.
How do you prevent them from doing so? And is life enjoyable if you have to force someone to stay put? it is not healthy for a child to be forced to deal with a parent that thinks his life is ruined by the child.
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Old 01-30-2017, 10:00 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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Plenty of good people were raised by parents making minimun wage. Why do you liberals think that only rich people can have good lives?
It's not only about the money, it's about the want. If someone becomes pregnant and they don't actually want a child, what kind of parent would that person be?

I think everyone knows that kind of attitude people have when they are forced to do something they don't want to do.
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Old 01-30-2017, 10:01 AM
 
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I don't believe that men should be able to just walk away either, but that is exactly what the culture of abortion has done: it has alleviated men from the responsibility of taking care of their offspring.

absolutely untrue, men have deserted their families for generations, well before RvW
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Old 01-30-2017, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Georgia
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Please explain the logic. You have a group of individuals that want abortion to be illegal. They want planned parenthood (birth control to low income) to stop being funded, and the same group, are the first to tell a single mom that should not have had kids, she could not afford.

Life does not work that way. You can't take away someone's ability to prevent an issue, but then blame them when they have an issue.

Seriously, someone please explain the thought process because it really makes no sense.
I can only speak for myself. I'm all for personal responsibility and accountability. People want the freedom to make bad choices, but they don't want to pay the consequences associated with their choices. They want the government and others to pay for their bad decisions.
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Old 01-30-2017, 10:03 AM
 
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Please explain the logic. You have a group of individuals that want abortion to be illegal. They want planned parenthood (birth control to low income) to stop being funded, and the same group, are the first to tell a single mom that should not have had kids, she could not afford.

Life does not work that way. You can't take away someone's ability to prevent an issue, but then blame them when they have an issue.

Seriously, someone please explain the thought process because it really makes no sense.

Abortion shouldn't be a form of birth control. There are many places that provide free birth control pills, etc. Even if you have to pay for them yourself they are relatively cheap. If you can't afford it then don't engage in sex. If you're a woman then make sure your partner used a condom since you'll be the one who will get pregnant not him. Surely between the two of you, you can afford some type of birth control. It's all about personal responsibility.
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Old 01-30-2017, 10:07 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Abortion shouldn't be a form of birth control. There are many places that provide free birth control pills, etc. Even if you have to pay for them yourself they are relatively cheap. If you can't afford it then don't engage in sex. If you're a woman then make sure your partner used a condom since you'll be the one who will get pregnant not him. Surely between the two of you, you can afford some type of birth control. It's all about personal responsibility.
Apparently they can't help themselves like dogs dry humping the air around another one in heat.
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Old 01-30-2017, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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Abortion shouldn't be a form of birth control. There are many places that provide free birth control pills, etc. Even if you have to pay for them yourself they are relatively cheap. If you can't afford it then don't engage in sex. If you're a woman then make sure your partner used a condom since you'll be the one who will get pregnant not him. Surely between the two of you, you can afford some type of birth control. It's all about personal responsibility.
I highly doubt people are using abortions as birth control (well, there's always those few idiots). But what happens when the condom breaks? Or the BC pill fails? You can take every precaution in the book and still have an emergency.
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Old 01-30-2017, 10:13 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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I highly doubt people are using abortions as birth control (well, there's always those few idiots). But what happens when the condom breaks? Or the BC pill fails? You can take every precaution in the book and still have an emergency.
I know of someone (coworker) that uses the morning after pill like BC.
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Old 01-30-2017, 10:13 AM
 
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Abortion shouldn't be a form of birth control. There are many places that provide free birth control pills, etc. Even if you have to pay for them yourself they are relatively cheap. If you can't afford it then don't engage in sex. If you're a woman then make sure your partner used a condom since you'll be the one who will get pregnant not him. Surely between the two of you, you can afford some type of birth control. It's all about personal responsibility.
Truth. There would be dramatically fewer unwanted pregnancies if both partners used a form of birth control, double protection. This was the norm I can recall, the boy would provide the condom and the girl would use her preferred method. If you refuse, are not smart enough, not responsible enough, than you are not responsible or mature enough to be doing it. One would think a girl never said no because they do not have adequate protection, and she did not want to risk pregnancy. Unthinkable.
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Old 01-30-2017, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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I know of someone (coworker) that uses the morning after pill like BC.
Someone that dumb shouldn't be raising a child anyways lol
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