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Old 02-10-2017, 10:14 AM
 
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So do women. Don't be so sexist.

If a woman can choose to abort an unwanted child, a man can likewise choose to opt out of any and all legal and financial responsibility for an unwanted child
does he need a contract before sex. does he need to be using birth control to be a valid contract? is there a clause if he told he wanted a baby then changes his mind? think someone has already asked these questions and there was no realistic answers.

again what about the women who feel abortion is murder and would never abort?
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Old 02-10-2017, 10:14 AM
 
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do you advocate for forced abortion? what about the millions of women who find themselves with an unwanted pregnancy that do not believe in abortion or adoption?
They shouldn't be engaging in activities that could potentially result in pregnancy if that's truly what they believe.

Actions have consequences.
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Old 02-10-2017, 10:17 AM
 
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They shouldn't be engaging in activities that could potentially result in pregnancy if that's truly what they believe.

Actions have consequences.
lmao...I guess this doesn't apply to men? if your position ever had any creditability it is now gone.
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Old 02-10-2017, 10:17 AM
 
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does he need a contract before sex.
No, just like a woman doesn't decide on abortion until after a pregnancy results.
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Old 02-10-2017, 10:19 AM
 
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lmao...I guess this doesn't apply to men? if your position ever had any creditability it is now gone.
Why would a man assume what a woman's beliefs are? We're talking about two individuals, both with the right of choice.

If a woman can choose to abort an unwanted child, a man can likewise choose to opt out of any and all legal and financial responsibility for an unwanted child.

Or are you now advocating that women shouldn't have that choice?
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Old 02-10-2017, 10:22 AM
 
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Republicans would love Russia. Russian news just told women to "embrace their bruises" now that they decriminalized domestic abuse.
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Old 02-10-2017, 10:28 AM
 
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So do women. Don't be so sexist.

If a woman can choose to abort an unwanted child, a man can likewise choose to opt out of any and all legal and financial responsibility for an unwanted child
So you are saying taxpayers should pay the man's share of support because if parents don't support the children they make, it falls to the state. Why can't I, as a taxpayer opt out of paying for a mistake two other people made?

Like another poster said in the child tax thread: you choose to have sex and have a child, you pay for your own decisions and leave me and my tax dollars out of it.
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Old 02-10-2017, 10:39 AM
 
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Why would a man assume what a woman's beliefs are? We're talking about two individuals, both with the right of choice.

If a woman can choose to abort an unwanted child, a man can likewise choose to opt out of any and all legal and financial responsibility for an unwanted child.

Or are you now advocating that women shouldn't have that choice?
We are not talking about two individuals with the right of choice. We are talking about two individuals with a right of choice and possible all the rest of us who pay taxes because if one or both parents are able to opt out of paying for the product of what they chose to do, it falls to us to pay for the kid. How is that fair that some parent has sex, has a kid, and walks away leaving the rest of us with the bills?

I'm sorry, that level of socialism for the irresponsible people in society will be hard to stuff down anyone's throat. You sound like those apologists who think drunk drivers who kill innocent people should excused for their actions because "it was just a lapse in judgment." They shouldn't have to pay for their mistakes for years.
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Old 02-10-2017, 11:09 AM
 
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Two wrongs don't make a right. I have no idea why it's the baby's fault that the rape occurred.
Therefore raper gets monetary damages?
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Old 02-10-2017, 11:48 AM
 
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Two wrongs don't make a right. I have no idea why it's the baby's fault that the rape occurred.
It's also not the mother's fault. Rapes are blamed solely on rapists. Rapes are done by force or threat of force and against the victim's will. This is the legal definition in nearly every state.

So because it's not the baby's fault, the mother shouldn't get an abortion? It's also not her fault so I don't see how your logic works.
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