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Old 02-05-2017, 11:35 AM
 
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There is nothing incorrect psychologically about men trying on different roles especially when they are children. The problem now is that we are at risk from monsters who want to kill us....and some men are so emasculated that they don't see it.
Really wish I could be more "manly" and frightened.
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Old 02-05-2017, 11:36 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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I'm not sure it was so much liberalism, but feminism. The U.S. has morphed into a gynocentric society where men are turned into little groveling wimps wearing girly jeans. Then we have the famous thread not long ago where women were advocating for men to be castrated or have their equipment fixed because somehow it's our fault there's so many single moms.

I actually saw someone say not long ago that they knew a girl that considered effeminate men sexy. Men aren't supposed to have balls anymore, have a sex drive, have body hair, etc. Utterly astounding and disgusting all at the same time.
ONLY those who allow it! Did you?
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Old 02-05-2017, 11:41 AM
 
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Yeah, let's all get outraged over what is practically a nonissue 99% of the time.
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Old 02-05-2017, 11:42 AM
 
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Yeah, let's all get outraged over what is practically a nonissue 99% of the time.
What's the 1% of time that it matters?
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Old 02-05-2017, 12:05 PM
 
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There is nothing incorrect psychologically about men trying on different roles especially when they are children. The problem now is that we are at risk from monsters who want to kill us....and some men are so emasculated that they don't see it.
R U talking about guys like Steve Bannon and similar?
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Old 02-05-2017, 12:07 PM
 
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Men aren't supposed to have balls anymore, have a sex drive, have body hair, etc. Utterly astounding and disgusting all at the same time.
Wait...I am confused now. I thought that each Sperm now has value and we need to save each and every one due to the life it can make? Isn't that giving real value to balls?
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Old 02-05-2017, 12:09 PM
 
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This is just another example of the usual problem (that is pretty much arbitrarily attached to liberalism). If something doesn't make sense, there is one question that should always be asked first: can this make money? If that answer is yes, that should solve any confusion.

A marketing campaign for a generally viewed feminine product aimed at men could be described as "liberal" (becasue that's what that word means...) propaganda if you want, but ask: does that make sense? Sure, modern liberalism has jumped on board for the gender politics thing mostly because their campaigning strategy since Bill Clinton has consistently been interest appeal. It's just another interest group; Hillary Clinton does not care if you're a man or a woman or anything in between. This is fact. What's more, make-up advertising has no actual impact on the Democratic party, nor is their any mutual benefit.

This strategy was approved by a CEO who's job it to make a company money so that he (or she) will have a job at the end of the quarter. That's it. CEO's are not ideologues. They serve the interests of money and if ideology comes before that, they lose a job. If it seems like that's not the case, ask "is this making money?" Now, I'm sure anyone on this forum can figure out how marketing a product generally made for women to men would increase revenue. Sure, the Democratic party has made this possible, but it's not their doing. Nor is this done for some evil, society crippling reason. They want money because we have a capitalist system, that has been made impersonal, who's only consideration is the generation of profit.

The critique for liberals is to care about issues (they had a candidate do this who was unfairly shafted by the Democratic party) and the economic consideration is to perhaps have more meaningful criticism for large companies. It's not really an issue of liberal ideology, which in this case is mostly being used for purposes of convenience.
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Old 02-05-2017, 12:14 PM
 
Location: The analog world
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I'm not sure it was so much liberalism, but feminism. The U.S. has morphed into a gynocentric society where men are turned into little groveling wimps wearing girly jeans. Then we have the famous thread not long ago where women were advocating for men to be castrated or have their equipment fixed because somehow it's our fault there's so many single moms.

I actually saw someone say not long ago that they knew a girl that considered effeminate men sexy. Men aren't supposed to have balls anymore, have a sex drive, have body hair, etc. Utterly astounding and disgusting all at the same time.
I'll be sympathetic when men come to grips with the fact that -- Newsflash! -- women also have body hair, and they stop making comments about how gross a women is when she doesn't shave her armpits, legs, and pubic region. Or imply that her face isn't attractive in its natural, bare state.
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Old 02-05-2017, 12:16 PM
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IrE6FMpai8
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Old 02-05-2017, 12:21 PM
 
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Anybody who would disown their kid for something as innocent as using make-up should not be a parent.
Anyone who would allow their son to put on make up should not be a parent.
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