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Old 02-07-2017, 09:34 PM
 
Location: Eastern Shore of Maryland
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Thoughts on this call for impeachment that has been circulating the internet?

They have got nearly about 750k signatures so far.



https://impeachdonaldtrumpnow.org/wp...Resolution.pdf

Is there grounds for impeachment?
I see that happening, for real, as soon as California Secedes from the Union....

and Unicorns roam the Earth again.
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Old 02-07-2017, 09:38 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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The nice thing about our government is that as a Democratic Republic, the voice of one person doesn't out weigh the voice of the states as a whole. This isn't about what YOU want, its about what a system of electors that has been in place for ~200 years wants, and for the last 8 years a lot of people didn't want what was being given to them by their Federal Government. Sometimes you just have to wait and see how things work out until its "your" turn again. In the mean time the fear mongering and hyperbole doesn't really help anything.
I .....you would have a point if I was the only one who felt the way I do about the policies Trump wants to implement......that is hardly the case.
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Old 02-07-2017, 09:38 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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Absolutely no grounds for impeachment.

FYI : America has a republican form of government in which the American people have creator endowed rights that government was instituted to secure (see: Declaration of Independence, 1776). . . and do nothing more without consent of the governed - the folks who waived those endowed rights to life, liberty, etc, etc. (see: end of DoI, where Founders pledged their lives, fortunes, yada yada to serve the people - which explains mandatory civic duties, like militia duty {“the draft”})
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So far no administration violated endowed rights of those who retained them, thus is in full compliance with the republican form.

As for the vast majority who have surrendered them, via consent to the democratic form and voluntary socialism : SHUT UP, SIT DOWN, PAY AND OBEY.
. . . thank you . . .
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Old 02-07-2017, 09:43 PM
 
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Obama could, with a straight face, say one thing and then go right ahead and do another while people were still basking in that sexy smile of his. He was a magician .. he was cunning .. he had you all fooled .. thinking what he said he would do was what he intended to do but it was definitely not in most cases what he actually did.


Trump meanwhile may get a bit more dramatic with his statements but at least when done he goes right ahead and tries his darnedest to make what he said he wanted to happen, happen.


You on the left don't know how to deal with someone that open and honest .. in fact, you don't even know how to recognize honesty it seems. You keep saying Trump is lying but right after you say that you call him out for doing what he said he would do. It is really hilarious actually.
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Old 02-07-2017, 09:55 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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The fracking has been going on like crazy under Obama. Do you even realize that the US is now one of the largest oil producing countries in the world during his administration?

You're not even anchored in reality.

And we need to frack and drill in our National Parks?


When is enough enough for you people?


I live in a heavily fracked area and I have seen what oil companies will do if left unchecked. There is a gas well 250' feet from my home, right smack in the middle of a residential neighborhood.


Even with the laws we have now, one company in our area was caught dumping drilling wastes into storm drains in the middle of the night.


Yea, it's a real good idea to gut the EPA and let oil companies have at it.


Two injection wells in my area were shut down because of earth quakes.


Yea, not a big deal, unless the foundation of YOUR home ends up full of nice big cracks and your insurance company tells you to go pound sand.


I will tell you where drilling will NEVER happen, anywhere near the homes of Trump and his billionaire buddies.
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Old 02-07-2017, 10:06 PM
 
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I never said I wanted to impeach Trump. I said I wanted to get Republicans out of office. Impeaching Trump will not accomplish that.


"Let's be fair and give him a chance"?...... Are you kidding? How can you even ask this after the way Obama was treated from day one?


Why should I support someone who goes against almost everything I believe in?


No, I do not want to give the oil industry carte blanche to destroy our National Parks and water supplies.


No, I do not want SS and Medicare gutted and replaced by a voucher system controlled by private interests. Same for healthcare.


No, I do not want the clock turned back on homosexual and women's rights.


No, I do not want to gut consumer protections put in place to protect the average American from big business interests.


If sticking to my beliefs means I have a CLOSED mind, so be it.
Per the bolded --- Exactly what "rights" do you imagine and fear being turned back? Roe v. Wade? Every time a republican is in office, people panic about Roe v. Wade going away. Wherever you stand on that issue, no one is going to get rid of it. "Homosexual rights"? SCOTUS agreed on same sex marriage. That's not going to go away.

As for your concerns about fracking --- Think for a minute why fracking is happening. Since 1965, this country has allowed, in total, 59 million people to immigrate here. Not to mention the untold millions of illegals that are here, too. The more people---the more need for energy. As for your concerns about safe drinking water---we don't have an unlimited supply of that. More people means more pressure on natural resources.
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Old 02-07-2017, 10:33 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Per the bolded --- Exactly what "rights" do you imagine and fear being turned back? Roe v. Wade? Every time a republican is in office, people panic about Roe v. Wade going away. Wherever you stand on that issue, no one is going to get rid of it. "Homosexual rights"? SCOTUS agreed on same sex marriage. That's not going to go away.

As for your concerns about fracking --- Think for a minute why fracking is happening. Since 1965, this country has allowed, in total, 59 million people to immigrate here. Not to mention the untold millions of illegals that are here, too. The more people---the more need for energy. As for your concerns about safe drinking water---we don't have an unlimited supply of that. More people means more pressure on natural resources.

Well then, I guess President Trump is lying when he said he would appoint a Supreme Court justice with the intent of overturning Roe v Wade.


With regards to same sex marriage, Trump says that is "settled law", well, so is Roe v Wade, yet he intends to do everything in his power to overturn it.....that is one of the promises he made to the people who elected him.


As far as more people, along with severely restricting immigration {which I am not against} that would include insuring that the only children born in this country would be those who are really wanted.


Closing Planned Parenthoods that are one of the major suppliers of BC is not a good way to make that happen, health insurance not covering BC is not a good way to make that happen. Pregnancy is a healthcare issue, so preventing pregnancy should be covered as a part of a woman's healthcare.
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Old 02-07-2017, 10:45 PM
 
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I .....you would have a point if I was the only one who felt the way I do about the policies Trump wants to implement......that is hardly the case.
No, I already have a very scientifically valid case. He won the election. Like it or not, he gets to apply his vision for the country as long as its supported by our other branches.
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Old 02-07-2017, 10:55 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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No, I already have a very scientifically valid case. He won the election. Like it or not, he gets to apply his vision for the country as long as its supported by our other branches.

The point was, I do not have to support him and his vision, anymore than Republicans supported Obama when the tables were turned.


Kapish?
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Old 02-07-2017, 11:08 PM
 
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The point was, I do not have to support him and his vision, anymore than Republicans supported Obama when the tables were turned.


Kapish?
Oh yeah, don't worry, I completely get the 4 year old "they did it first" logic. Its a big part of what is destroying the country and our political system....carry on though.
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