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Old 02-22-2017, 12:13 AM
 
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Oh believe me, we get it. As trump himself has said, he could shoot someone in Times Square and not lose any voters.

Trump has made a career of fraud, lies and fleecing dupes. He knows just who his bootlickers will be, and he knows exactly how to play them.

He's basically saying "Hey, come over here and eat this bowl of excrement and tell me it tastes like vanilla ice cream."

And his lemming cult members will scramble over each other to do just that.
Your opinion...and how does this excuse all the excrement in D.C. that people are sick of? Y'know, the politicians who have caused a lot of the mess? And I could literally say the same about Obama, Hillary, etc.

Let's go down a list of ACTUAL excrement sold to the American people: Obamacare, Iran Deal, TPP (thankfully that was rejected), NAFTA, green energy jobs that never came, a reduction in the national debt that Obama would go on to actually double, Russia Reset, a stimulus package where most of the money was squandered and pocketed by connected crooks, etc..

So who are the frauds again?

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Old 02-22-2017, 12:20 AM
 
Location: Sweden
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Its seem Trump was right and sadly there is rioting in the streets of Sweden. Muslims find it difficult to respect western culture!
"The streets of Sweden..."
This happened in a suburb of Stockholm, not on the streets of Sweden.
There are no riots where I live, even though we have lots of foreigners too.
What happened in Rinkeby was caused by an increased police precense. The gangs of criminals that operates there are upset because the police are disturbing their drug trade.
The riot started because the police searched and arrested a suspect.
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Old 02-22-2017, 12:30 AM
 
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"The streets of Sweden..."
This happened in a suburb of Stockholm, not on the streets of Sweden.
There are no riots where I live, even though we have lots of foreigners too.
What happened in Rinkeby was caused by an increased police precense. The gangs of criminals that operates there are upset because the police are disturbing their drug trade.
The riot started because the police searched and arrested a suspect.
Are these Muslim or other immigrant gangs of criminals or native born Swedish criminals?
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Old 02-22-2017, 12:31 AM
 
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"The streets of Sweden..."
This happened in a suburb of Stockholm, not on the streets of Sweden.
There are no riots where I live, even though we have lots of foreigners too.
What happened in Rinkeby was caused by an increased police precense. The gangs of criminals that operates there are upset because the police are disturbing their drug trade.
The riot started because the police searched and arrested a suspect.
Don't you realize that some dude in Arizona knows more about your country than you do?

Come on now!!

It's all about serving the almighty Trump, our all-knowing deity.
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Old 02-22-2017, 12:43 AM
 
Location: Sweden
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Are these Muslim or other immigrant gangs of criminals or native born Swedish criminals?
I think it is a mix of nationalities, I know there are swedish kids in those gangs too, but Rinkeby has a large population of muslims, as many of these suburbs.
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Old 02-22-2017, 01:12 AM
 
Location: Finland
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So Muslim rapes, crime, riots, etc, have nothing to do with it?


I completely understand that voting for far-right parties is largely a waste of time. But that is because of geopolitical-circumstances, not because the refugees aren't causing problems.


Every sane person realizes that importing large numbers of poor immigrants is socially-destructive, and causes crime.


The actual question is, what do you do about the immigrants already here?


Most people, even in liberal Sweden, simply argue that the government should take steps to lower poverty rates, and assimilate the immigrants.


This is an admission that poverty causes crime(and thus, as long as immigrants overwhelmingly live in poverty, there will be elevated levels of crime), and further, that multiculturalism doesn't work. And immigrants need to be assimilated into the mainstream culture as quickly as possible, to prevent poverty, and thus crime.


The first step to recovery is admitting you have a problem. Liberals are still living in complete denial. They refuse to accept what is right in front of their face, because they don't like what they see.
Muslim crime, rape, riots etc. aren't that big of a problem as you seem to want to believe. There are incidents, there is also crime with natives, most people just want crime to be dealt with the same as usual. I know personally that some of the 'refugee crime' rumours are false, ones in my own town that many believed until the truth came out. The far-right and other racists spread these rumours to boost up the numbers of immigrant crime to make people think its a hellhole. Its not.

Crime as a result of poverty is easily reduced by increasing social welfare measures.

A large percentage of the refugees return home, either voluntarily or because their asylum applications have been denied. The ones that stay need to be integrated as soon as viable, absolutely, more money needs to be aimed at that (more language classes, more job training programs, spreading people around the country more to ghettoes don't occur)

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I don't believe your characterization because it makes no sense at all. The government is responsible for presence of the immigrants. The immigrants and the government are the same problem. No one who thinks that the immigrants are a problem thinks that the government is not.
No, the incorrect usage of tax money is the main problem. That problem would still be there even if the immigrants are not, but in the meantime something has to be done about the refugee situation and turning everyone away is not a viable solution.
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Old 02-22-2017, 01:44 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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First Bowling Green, now Sweden. Donald Trump refers to non-existent refugee 'incident' in Sweden during rally*


It's all lies, all the time.
Trump didn't make up an incident in Sweden. He said:


"If you could see what happened in Sweden last night"


What he really meant was that he saw a report the night before about crime in Sweden. It isn't his fault that he's a buffoon who can't string together a coherent sentence.
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Old 02-22-2017, 02:01 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Trump didn't make up an incident in Sweden. He said:


"If you could see what happened in Sweden last night"


What he really meant was that he saw a report the night before about crime in Sweden. It isn't his fault that he's a buffoon who can't string together a coherent sentence.
Well, he actually said: "You look at what's happening last night in Sweden."

I watched the video, and it did seem like something awful went down "last night in Sweden."

Trump misspoke.. either unintentionally, or he did it intentionally for effect. But a week from now the controversy will have evaporated.
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Old 02-22-2017, 02:11 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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Well, he actually said: "You look at what's happening last night in Sweden."

I watched the video, and it did seem like something awful went down "last night in Sweden."

Trump misspoke.. either unintentionally, or he did it intentionally for effect. But a week from now the controversy will have evaporated.
Right, the "last night" referred to the fact that he had seen a news report about Sweden that aired the night before.


The man doesn't know how to speak articulately, but he wasn't making something up that didn't happen, he just wasn't very clear about what he was saying. It's up to us to sift through the rubble of his public statements and try to put the puzzle together I guess.
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Old 02-22-2017, 02:55 AM
 
Location: Louisiana
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Yeah, instead of "last night," he shouldda said next Monday night.
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