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Old 03-01-2017, 12:21 PM
 
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I guess you've been missing President Trump's accomplishments. Here's just the most recent:

Coal mining begins seeing revival as Trump gives industry hope | Fox News

A revival in coal isn't progress, it's regression. How about, Trump revives horse and buggy industry, slams cars? Trump revives reading by candlelight, slams light bulbs?
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Old 03-01-2017, 12:21 PM
 
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Could you give an hour long well presented speech without a teleprompter?
But here are a few others who have been publicly embarrassed, thanks to a teleprompter.

In 1993, when Bill Clinton was addressing US Congress to promote his health-care plan, the teleprompter was fed the wrong speech. The problem took seven minutes to resolve during which time a resourceful Clinton winged it and spoke successfully. Some even thought he did better than the prompted speech.

In 2002 George Bush was due to speak in the United Nations about the looming confrontation with Iraq. Bush had agreed to seek a new Security Council resolution after much deliberation, but when the speech was fed into the teleprompter, the key line went missing. Many panicked when they saw that the line was missing. When Bush noticed it, he ad-libbed it, but with a plural connotation. He said he would seek "the necessary resolutions" and the Europeans kept hounding him to seek a second resolution before going to war.

Trump was famously chided for mis-pronouncing the country Tanzania, and many blame the teleprompter for not feeding him the phonetic description of the word. He was mocked by a spokesman of Obama administration who during a meeting with the reporters said, "Apparently the phonetics aren’t included on the teleprompter," and hence his mis-pronunciation?

Teleprompter speeches have bungled up quite a few political careers
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Old 03-01-2017, 12:26 PM
 
Location: SW Florida
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I thought the existing minimum requirements were worthy of some merit already, but what do I know about all this sort of thing as compared to those hearing this stuff for the first time from Trump?

You must invest $1,000,000, or at least $500,000 in a targeted employment area (high unemployment or rural area). In return, USCIS may grant conditional permanent residence to the individual.

https://www.uscis.gov/green-card/gre...ugh-investment

All the more for Trump to "fix" as far as his supporters are concerned...

https://www.americanimmigrationcounc...n-system-works

Like now this new idea about allowing people with pre-existing conditions to maintain access to health care coverage. Whoa!

Were'd that come from Trump people?
Actually, that pre-existing condition clause has always been a part of the repeal and replace Obamacare package (in whatever form that may finally take) floated by both Trump and the GOP. It's not new. Another thing that Trump has said before, and said again last night addressed the cost of prescription drugs as a significant player in the high price of healthcare. He has mentioned before that any healthcare reform must include not just how to pay for healthcare, but the cost of healthcare itself, and that controlling the runaway cost of prescription drugs must be a part of reform.

I'm not so sure how many GOP Congressional members are on board with controlling prescription drug costs, the federal government has discouraged this, with the passage of the Medicare Part D bill in 1995 under Bush (IIRC), with this program and other government sponsored prescription drug coverage there is no bargaining or actions to lower prescription drug prices allowed. The myriad of laws and regulations governing the development and determination of efficacy of drugs also makes them more expensive and slows down their availability to people who need them, but these laws could be examined as well.
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Old 03-01-2017, 12:27 PM
 
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He stuck to the script. Give him a cookie.

He's still the same jerk he's always been.
President Trump is very hands on when it comes to speeches, and everything.
I'm certain he was the main contributor to that speech.
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Old 03-01-2017, 12:28 PM
 
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Haha. Nice work, Nepenthe. Those buzz phrases are like nails on a chalkboard to me after reading them over and over and over again here.
Agreed! And I suppose why some people turn to the ignore option, but I consider that a great way to insure confirmation bias that is already an epidemic problem in this country...
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Old 03-01-2017, 12:32 PM
 
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Looks like a cult of morons
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Old 03-01-2017, 12:34 PM
 
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I guess you've been missing President Trump's accomplishments. Here's just the most recent:

Coal mining begins seeing revival as Trump gives industry hope | Fox News
We can all be happy about any industry that gets stronger, hires more people, but not all people can be happy regardless the rest of the story...

Coal miners plus 1

The production of coal reached its peak in 2008. But then President Obama came into office and rolled out a series of regulations that he said were designed to protect America’s streams and waterways from the pollution the mining emitted.

Those regulations crippled the industry and left many in the region out of well-paying jobs.

Streams and waterways and all who also care about these environmental concerns minus ???
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Old 03-01-2017, 12:35 PM
 
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Well, tRump has learned to "sound presidential" for at least a day. Shame his policies don't match what he said last night.

Donald Trump's Actual Policies Contradict His Joint Session Speech | The Huffington Post

"key assertions Trump made were patently false. America is neither crime-infested nor still mired in a recession, as he portrayed. Moreover, some of his bold rhetoric on issues like the environment, immigration, civil rights, women’s rights and child care are directly undercut by the policies he has pursued or promised to pursue since taking office on Jan. 20."
You present something prepared by the media? You too are an enemy of the people?!?
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Old 03-01-2017, 12:43 PM
 
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Actually, that pre-existing condition clause has always been a part of the repeal and replace Obamacare package (in whatever form that may finally take) floated by both Trump and the GOP. It's not new. Another thing that Trump has said before, and said again last night addressed the cost of prescription drugs as a significant player in the high price of healthcare. He has mentioned before that any healthcare reform must include not just how to pay for healthcare, but the cost of healthcare itself, and that controlling the runaway cost of prescription drugs must be a part of reform.

I'm not so sure how many GOP Congressional members are on board with controlling prescription drug costs, the federal government has discouraged this, with the passage of the Medicare Part D bill in 1995 under Bush (IIRC), with this program and other government sponsored prescription drug coverage there is no bargaining or actions to lower prescription drug prices allowed. The myriad of laws and regulations governing the development and determination of efficacy of drugs also makes them more expensive and slows down their availability to people who need them, but these laws could be examined as well.
Oh, I see...

Seems to me, however, that when you maintain one of the most significant aspects of what the ACA ultimately accomplished, the term "repeal and replace" becomes all the more inappropriate, and to suggest that the ACA was/is a disaster just as inappropriate -- incorrect.

We all know that pre-existing condition clause is not new! What's new is that maybe conservatives will begin to recognize the ACA for a bit more that it accomplished, how difficult it was to correct such a long-standing problem.

Repeal and replace? More like smoke and mirrors and whatever else can be done not to admit that we're essentially going to do what was expected with the ACA all along.

Maintain and improve! Fingers crossed anyway...

What else has Trump said that you note that is anything new? Nothing!

Trump has admitted that the issue of health care in America is very complex, so at least he's learning something. Maybe his supporters too, but not most of the people listening to Trump last night I don't think...
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Old 03-01-2017, 12:52 PM
 
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Looks like a cult of morons
I think they were just put off because they were not invited to the STEM bill signing.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLO6n6e_5Z8
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