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The US has made a formal apology to Britain after the White House accused GCHQ of helping Barack Obama spy on Donald Trump in the White House.
Sean Spicer, Mr Trump's press secretary, repeated a claim on Thursday evening – initially made by an analyst on Fox News - that GCHQ was used by Mr Obama to spy on Trump Tower in the lead-up to last November's election
Does this mean there was no surveillance, or that there are security concerns and it's in both countries' interests to agree to close the discussion about this.
Does this mean there was no surveillance, or that there are security concerns and it's in both countries' interests to agree to close the discussion about this.
This means it is shameful and absurd, not to mention poor international politics, to accuse your ally of nefarious deeds.
If Trump has evidence, now would be the time to present it.
As near as I can tell, two Saturdays ago, Trump sent out a series of tweets accusing Obama of wiretapping Trump Tower.
Trump presented no evidence of this, nor did the DOJ present any when the House Intelligence Committee demanded it a few days ago.
Everyone who would be in a position to know whether this could have happened has said it did not.
Spicer, reading a press release as if he was getting paid by the words per minute, accused the British of doing it. Brits told him to take that back as they didn't do it.
At this point, there is no evidence that it even occurred, let alone who did (or didn't) do it.
As near as I can tell, two Saturdays ago, Trump sent out a series of tweets accusing Obama of wiretapping Trump Tower.
Trump presented no evidence of this, nor did the DOJ present any when the House Intelligence Committee demanded it a few days ago.
Everyone who would be in a position to know whether this could have happened has said it did not.
Spicer, reading a press release as if he was getting paid by the words per minute, accused the British of doing it. Brits told him to take that back as they didn't do it.
At this point, there is no evidence that it even occurred, let alone who did (or didn't) do it.
Appalled? Is that the right word. The Brits denied this right after Judge Napolitano came out with that fishy story. Linked right here on this very thread - BEFORE Spicer's press conference yesterday.
Trump now has his press secretary repeat a debunked conspiracy theory that results in a formal US apology to the UK. From your link:
Quote:
General McMaster contacted Sir Mark Lyall Grant, the Prime Minister's National Security adviser, to apologise for the comments. Mr Spicer conveyed his apology through Sir Kim Darroch, Britain's US ambassador. ... Mrs May's official spokesman said the White House has assured the Government that allegations that British intelligence services spied on Donald Trump will not be repeated.
This was deliberate. Trump has Spicer throw an incendiary accusation to try to defend the incendiary accusation that Trump threw earlier in the tweets.
No. This started with Trump's repeated references to Russia early on in the campaign and associations with individuals with ties to Russia and the Ukraine that *may* be corrupt. Call it fair or not - but this was "enough" to lead to MSM stories and very possibly intel investigations (not necessarily with Trump as a target). The base of the Russian "fairy tale" is Trump as usual saying whatever comes to his head with a peak created by his fingers on that phone.
Have some on the left speculated that Trump could be involved in a way that might lead to a future impeachment? Sure. But that does not make THAT true any more than Trump's accusations against Obama are true. This kind of speculation should remain in the fringe press and in internet forums not make its way to the WH podium. Or into Presidential tweets.
At some point it is that simple.
Last edited by EveryLady; 03-17-2017 at 08:40 AM..
True, but it makes a great deal of difference in the House. The House is locked unless something like a political tsunami happens. Ironically Mr Trump is the one person who might serve as a catalyst for such an event.
You speak too soon. You do not know me.
I was a pretty eager Kasich supporter.
I am not happy with the direction of the party ... I don't think the governor is either.
I will never support Mr Trump.
I am hoping Kasich teams up with people like Evan McMullin and Ahnuld (aka Arnold Schwarzenegger) to form a new center-right political party once he leaves office.
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