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Old 03-05-2017, 07:18 AM
 
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The USS Trump is taking on water ...
Great analogy.

 
Old 03-05-2017, 07:19 AM
 
Location: Florida
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President Crazy is still at this morning. Ivanka and Jared must have slept late.
 
Old 03-05-2017, 07:19 AM
 
Location: Pa
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Originally Posted by G1.. View Post
If you would watch a real news station you would know Snowdon is a spy and a traitor and should be tried for treason,and hung.
Whoa whoa he showed us corruption of our own government. Why does our government need to watch us have sex?
Watch a government official's daughter change clothes and spy on social media to get her boyfriend deported?

All personal gain or abuse of authority?

Bosses do it,cops do it,long standing employees do it.

With great power ,narcissistic tendencies will rise.
 
Old 03-05-2017, 07:19 AM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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some FACTS children:
Wiretapping first became a tool of U.S. law enforcement in the 1890s, but the Supreme Court didn't establish its constitutionality until 1928, at the height of Prohibition.

The NSA warrantless surveillance controversy ("warrantless wiretapping") concerns surveillance of persons within the United States during the collection of allegedly foreign intelligence by the U.S. National Security Agency (NSA) as part of the touted war on terror.

All wiretapping of American citizens by the National Security Agency requires a warrant from a three-judge court set up under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. After the 9/11 attacks, Congress passed the Patriot Act, which granted the President broad powers to fight a war against terrorism. The George W. Bush administration used these powers to bypass the FISA court and directed the NSA to spy directly on al-Qaeda in a new NSA electronic surveillance program. Reports at the time indicate that an "apparently accidental" "glitch" resulted in the interception of communications that were purely domestic in nature.[5] This action was challenged by a number of groups, including Congress, as unconstitutional.On March 31, 2010, Judge Vaughn R. Walker, chief judge of the Federal District Court in San Francisco, ruled that the National Security Agency's program of surveillance without warrants was illegal when it intercepted phone calls of Al Haramain.
 
Old 03-05-2017, 07:21 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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One only needs to look at Obama's NSA and spying activities of past years to have some serious questions about Obama's latest denials about this current (alleged) incident. So, exactly who speaks the WHOLE truth in this matter? At this point I don't know...

From 2015 when the U.S. was spying on Israel and it's leadership:

U.S. spying programs scooped up communications between members of Congress and Israeli leaders, giving the White House insight into Israel’s lobbying of U.S. lawmakers against the Iran nuclear deal, current and former U.S. officials told The Wall Street Journal.

The article, published Tuesday afternoon, reports that the U.S. continued to spy on select leaders of allied nations despite President Barack Obama’s pledge to curb such surveillance two years ago, and that it was a top priority to maintain spying on Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his government.


According to the report, Obama administration officials thought the information it uncovered could potentially counteract Netanyahu’s crusade to stop the nuclear deal. But rather than make a formal request to the NSA for the back-and-forth, an official said, the White House opted to allow the NSA to decide on its own — without leaving a paper trail by submitting a formal request.

“We didn’t say, ‘Do it,’” a senior U.S. official told the newspaper. “We didn’t say, ‘Don’t do it.’”

Behind closed doors, the White House agreed on which allied leaders would be exempt from surveillance, such as French President François Hollande, German Chancellor Angela Merkel and other North Atlantic Treaty Organization leaders, the report said. But the administration still allowed the NSA to target their advisers, officials told the Journal, as well as other allies, including Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan.


Report: U.S. spying on Israel swept up members of Congress - POLITICO
 
Old 03-05-2017, 07:24 AM
 
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Yes unfortunately he knew,but why was it done?

Watching the Anti-government activists?
The purpose of this program is to spy on foreigners which they can do legally, they cannot do that to US citizens without a warrant. The problem is the data they were collecting included US citizens. How or if that information was used is not known.
 
Old 03-05-2017, 07:30 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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The USS Trump is taking on water and watching the pubs continue to try and defend his lunacy is comedy gold. Trump is doing his best to keep the hounds at bay regarding his involvement with Russia. Trump has not provided a ounce of truth regarding his accusations. We are only 2 months into this administration folks. I can only imagine were we will be in 4 years.
So if Trump goes down, will they go looking for another Strongman to follow? And is it possible a new strongman will be worse than the current one?
 
Old 03-05-2017, 07:31 AM
 
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So if Trump goes down, will they go looking for another Strongman to follow? And is it possible a new strongman will be worse than the current one?
Hopefully they'll crawl back under the rocks they came from.
 
Old 03-05-2017, 07:32 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Originally Posted by Old Town FFX View Post
No administration is scandal free, but we're only 6 weeks in and look at this s*** show. Do you honestly think the government can go on like this for 4 years?
This is what I feared with the Russian hacks. Especially when Trump asked for enough. Keep asking questions, you keep getting answers. Trump is asking questions, now he don't like the answers.
 
Old 03-05-2017, 07:32 AM
 
Location: Twin Falls Idaho
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Originally Posted by jimj View Post
One only needs to look at Obama's NSA and spying activities of past years to have some serious questions about Obama's latest denials about this current (alleged) incident. So, exactly who speaks the WHOLE truth in this matter? At this point I don't know...

From 2015 when the U.S. was spying on Israel and it's leadership:

U.S. spying programs scooped up communications between members of Congress and Israeli leaders, giving the White House insight into Israel’s lobbying of U.S. lawmakers against the Iran nuclear deal, current and former U.S. officials told The Wall Street Journal.

The article, published Tuesday afternoon, reports that the U.S. continued to spy on select leaders of allied nations despite President Barack Obama’s pledge to curb such surveillance two years ago, and that it was a top priority to maintain spying on Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his government.


According to the report, Obama administration officials thought the information it uncovered could potentially counteract Netanyahu’s crusade to stop the nuclear deal. But rather than make a formal request to the NSA for the back-and-forth, an official said, the White House opted to allow the NSA to decide on its own — without leaving a paper trail by submitting a formal request.

“We didn’t say, ‘Do it,’” a senior U.S. official told the newspaper. “We didn’t say, ‘Don’t do it.’”

Behind closed doors, the White House agreed on which allied leaders would be exempt from surveillance, such as French President François Hollande, German Chancellor Angela Merkel and other North Atlantic Treaty Organization leaders, the report said. But the administration still allowed the NSA to target their advisers, officials told the Journal, as well as other allies, including Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan.


Report: U.S. spying on Israel swept up members of Congress - POLITICO
It is not against the law to spy on Israel--They certainly spy on us:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/israel-...lks-1427164201
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