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Nothing misleading about it, but you are right that it doesn't include basic nursing home care. It does cover skill nursing care. It also doesn't cover burial or cremation.
It could happen if we the people so desire.
We the people could make Medicare greater than it is, but I don't see people asking for the above.
the cost is way out of hand for the budget or the taxpayer
our government (the taxpayers) spend over 1 trillion dollars just on medicare and Medicaid
fy2016 which ended back in October the GOVERNMENTAL SPENDING (not what people spent out of pocket) for medicare 691.6 Billion dollars.... and Medicaid was 368.3 Billion dollars..... and that's not including what was spent with the VA https://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/fi...udgetdata.xlsx
let's look at the increases medicare has cost:
in 2000 medicare was 216 billion
in 2008 medicare was 456 billion
in 2016 medicare was 691 billion
what is even more interesting is what the predicted outlays will be in the future
in 2016 medicare was 691 billion
prediction for 2020....963 billion
prediction for 2026....1.383 Trillion
actual Medicaid 2016.....368 billion
prediction for 2020....450 billion
prediction for 2026....616 Billion
that's just the GOVERNMENT costs of Medicare and Medicaid.. on top of that you have the VA..and then what the PEOPLE are already paying for private insurance
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the cost is way out of hand for the budget or the taxpayer
our government (the taxpayers) spend over 1 trillion dollars just on medicare and Medicaid
fy2016 which ended back in October the GOVERNMENTAL SPENDING (not what people spent out of pocket) for medicare 691.6 Billion dollars.... and Medicaid was 368.3 Billion dollars..... and that's not including what was spent with the VA https://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/fi...udgetdata.xlsx
let's look at the increases medicare has cost:
in 2000 medicare was 216 billion
in 2008 medicare was 456 billion
in 2016 medicare was 691 billion
Medicaid:
2000.....117 billion
2008.....201 billion
2016.....368 billion https://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/fi...udgetdata.xlsx
see the mandatory outlay tab
what is even more interesting is what the predicted outlays will be in the future
in 2016 medicare was 691 billion
prediction for 2020....963 billion
prediction for 2026....1.383 Trillion
actual Medicaid 2016.....368 billion
prediction for 2020....450 billion
prediction for 2026....616 Billion
That would be relevant except for the fact that all healthcare spending in the US increased during the same time period:
with medicare spending increasing at a much lower rate than private health insurance spending:
NHE Fact Sheet
Historical NHE, 2015:
NHE grew 5.8% to $3.2 trillion in 2015, or $9,990 per person, and accounted for 17.8% of Gross Domestic Product (GDP).
Medicare spending grew 4.5% to $646.2 billion in 2015, or 20 percent of total NHE.
Medicaid spending grew 9.7% to $545.1 billion in 2015, or 17 percent of total NHE.
Private health insurance spending grew 7.2% to $1,072.1 billion in 2015, or 33 percent of total NHE.
Out of pocket spending grew 2.6% to $338.1 billion in 2015, or 11 percent of total NHE.
Hospital expenditures grew 5.6% to $1,036.1 billion in 2015, faster than the 4.6% growth in 2014.
Physician and clinical services expenditures grew 6.3% to $634.9 billion in 2015,
Prescription drug spending increased 9.0% to $324.6 billion in 2015,
The largest shares of total health spending were sponsored by the federal government (28.7 percent) and the households (27.7 percent).
The private business share of health spending accounted for 19.9 percent of total health care spending, state and local governments accounted for 17.1 percent, and other private revenues accounted for 6.7 percent.
I guess you've never heard of Urgent Care facilities? 24/7 clinics.
None of them are open 24/7 around here and you pay up front or you don't get treated. When they ask for payment the person leaves and heads to the E.R.
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Not sliding scale but still cheaper then the ER. The ER should be used for real emergencies, not for people with strep throat and ear infections. That benefits everyone who truly needs to use the ER's quality and speed of care.
Again, the E.R. is more expensive because of tax implications not because the actual cost of service.
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With insurance it's way cheaper to go to Urgent Care then it is to go to the ER. I'd imagine it's the same for Medicaid. I don't know about you but I would like all people to think about cost when seeking care, especially when others are picking up the tab. Why this suggestion is so offensive to you is beyond me.
For those we are discussing It's cheaper to go to the E.R. It costs nothing.
Universal Heath Care will be just as stupid as a universal car manufacturer would be.
If the thought of nameless, faceless bureaucrats designing your car choice for you, is viewed as a great thing, then by all means, jump on the UHC bandwagon. After all, having the state design cars worked out great for customers in the former Soviet Union.
Somehow it works in Sweden. Volvo's are pretty highly rated. No?
That's something that needs to be addressed then. Another issue that needs to be addressed is that fact that if you can't afford it, you get the care anyway.
If it's NOT an emergency, then you don't get care. Period. If it is an emergency, then you must pay for it. Make payments, pay cash or use insurance.
It's always an emergency. Once again, cute to suggest on a message board but not something we are ever going to do.
I just heard that the Don't Care bill has eliminated the Federal Program for treating Black Lung. I encourage the Republicans to keep this in the bill. Why should the Federal government pay for treating industrial ailments created in the workplace. Next thing you know the Democrats will want the government to pay for treating Cancers created by working with tobacco or mining uranium for our weapons programs.
The Republicans also need to create a set of laws that prosecute people that cannot pay their health care bills because they do not have any insurance.
As nothing has been passed it hasn't done anything. People who do like you did here do not help.
Somehow it works in Sweden. Volvo's are pretty highly rated. No?
not sure if using Volvo as an example is a good idea
Volvo has been owned by the Chinese since 2010, when Geely bought Volvo from Ford
Volvo hasn't ever been a government owned company...
now on the other hand if you were trying to show a Swedish government owned company..that would be the now defunct SAAB
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