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Old 03-13-2017, 02:58 PM
 
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If you read the report most of those will be people who do not want it but bought it because of the penalty. Over time moe will be from the loss of expanded medicare.

CBO and JCT estimate that, in 2018, 14 million more people would be uninsured under the legislation than under current law. Most of that increase would stem from repealing the penalties associated with the individual mandate. Some of those people would choose not to have insurance because they chose to be covered by insurance under current law only to avoid paying the penalties, and some people would forgo insurance in response to higher premiums.

 
Old 03-13-2017, 02:58 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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I guess when Trump said he would take care of "everybody" he was speaking figuratively and not literally. It also could be he was speaking in more of a mafioso way when saying he would "take care of everybody." He is from New York and has outfit ties. So what's rubbing a few million folks out?
So roughly 14 million people out of almost 350 million dictate healthcare policy again? Excuse me, but do the math.
 
Old 03-13-2017, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Central Mexico and Central Florida
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Ask any geezer how s/he feels about their Medicare. They love it....mainly because there's no insurance company BS involved. EVERYONE gets treated the same as it's one plan.

Start with Medicare and Medicaid (for poor) and bring everyone into these programs.

It ain't rocket science.
 
Old 03-13-2017, 02:59 PM
 
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much better than obamacare -- but not good enough in terms of lowering costs. lobbyists still in control it seems.
 
Old 03-13-2017, 02:59 PM
 
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Jail? No. He should have tried to negotiate with the hospital and should have worked out a payment plan and then paid it.
You are correct. But it was stated that he decided not to pay the bill. So yea, in that case, he has stolen something, and should pay the price.
 
Old 03-13-2017, 03:00 PM
 
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you the taxpayer cant afford singlepayer
Many people who endorse single payer believe the "rich" will be paying their share.
 
Old 03-13-2017, 03:00 PM
 
Location: Denver CO
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much better than obamacare -- but not good enough in terms of lowering costs. lobbyists still in control it seems.
Millions more people without insurance coverage is much better? Do explain.....
 
Old 03-13-2017, 03:00 PM
 
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so who wins? Well the rich win and the lower income trumpers lose out the most.
Doubt those people will see themselves in that "24 million uninsured" figure... it's only those other freeloaders that can't afford stuff, right. Or all 24 million of 'em made bad decisions in life and it's no one else's responsibility to pull themselves out of it.
 
Old 03-13-2017, 03:01 PM
 
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much better than obamacare -- but not good enough in terms of lowering costs. lobbyists still in control it seems.
Both systems are LOSERS.

ACA was bad, but this is most likely worse.
 
Old 03-13-2017, 03:01 PM
 
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Well if Obamacare keeps going as is, a lot of people who are struggling to pay these high premiums will drop out (as many already have) and it will crash and burn anyway.
So shouldn't the goal be to fix it so that MORE and not LESS people have access to healthcare? Isn't the goal to get premiums to go down, not up??? I mean, premiums went up because more people were enrolling and using their insurance. Now, less people are going to be enrolling, and premiums are still going to go up?

The GOP wanted to replace Obamacare for several years, but their plan is to make everything worse???
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