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Old 03-07-2017, 05:34 AM
 
Location: Wartrace,TN
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First and foremost, you're including Social Security in "welfare". Secondly, I'm totally okay with 33% of our budget being used to care for the people of our nation. Where would YOU rather see that money go?
Where did I include social security in welfare? Where would I rather see that money go? You do realize we a BORROWING in order to meet our obligations? My response would be I would rather we didn't spend more than we took in.
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Old 03-07-2017, 05:34 AM
 
Location: USA
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Whaaaat????

You consider Social Security and Medicare to be welfare!?!?!?!

I guess President Bonkers will cut back on both then....and his supporters are OK with that??
President Bonker's supporters are nuts enough to think that all that money goes to "evil, poor brown people" and thus needs to be cut. But nobody had better touch their Social Security, Medicare, pensions, etc. The hypocrisy is astounding.

Meanwhile, can we talk about corporate welfare and the huge cost that places on society? Oh, of course not. Welfare is only evil when it helps the poor... right...
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Old 03-07-2017, 05:34 AM
 
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So you consider Social Security and Medicare to be WELFARE programs?????
I think you need to read more careful.
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Old 03-07-2017, 05:36 AM
 
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Yup. We should be no better than the rest of the animals.
Actually we're not as good as they are.

They, at least, are innocent.
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Old 03-07-2017, 05:38 AM
 
Location: Wartrace,TN
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Whaaaat????

You consider Social Security and Medicare to be welfare!?!?!?!

I guess President Bonkers will cut back on both then....and his supporters are OK with that??
So you didn't bother checking the facts before posting? Did you look at the link? Social security NOR medicare are included in that figure.

Look at health care spending last line Vendor payments (welfare). Next go to the line item "Welfare".

So the answer is no. I did not include any social security payments or medicare payments in that figure.
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Old 03-07-2017, 05:41 AM
 
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We certainly should not have welfare if we're going to have a million people a year -- most of them poor and uneducated -- legally immigrating to this country.

Liberals want it both ways -- welfare plus massive immigration of poor people -- even when Americans can't find jobs and we can only pay for welfare by increasing our national $20 trillion debt.

Then, when you criticize that, you're accused of hating "poor brown people".
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Old 03-07-2017, 05:42 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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Darwin would recommend that.

Not because they're poor, but because they're not healthy.

It's true that healthy people need health care if they're run over by a bus.

But the bus company has insurance to pay for that, so it doesn't really count.

Allowing unhealthy people to live and reproduce is a big factor in raising overall health care costs.
Interesting. Consistent at least. Impressive.
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Old 03-07-2017, 05:46 AM
 
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Back in my pocket, re-united with it's rightful owner.
But instead, it's going into the pockets of billionaires and millionare business owners in the form of corporate tax cuts and massive tax cuts for billionaires. These are people that have 5 houses across the world and take private jets for travel. The money's going into their pocket, not yours.

Oh - billions will also go toward "the wall". We'll be paying for that wall for the next 30 years. Even though it won't stop illegals from entering the US.
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Old 03-07-2017, 05:49 AM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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Pick your poison!

Throw them off welfare, they become homeless, and it costs the taxpayers, on a national average, $42,500 a year to have one homeless person on our streets.

They're forced to commit crimes to stay alive, and off to prison they go, and! Indirect and directs costs of incarceration: $40-50k a year!
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Old 03-07-2017, 05:55 AM
 
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But instead, it's going into the pockets of billionaires and millionare business owners in the form of corporate tax cuts and massive tax cuts for billionaires. These are people that have 5 houses across the world and take private jets for travel. The money's going into their pocket, not yours.
How so?

45% of American households pay no federal tax. Are you saying 1/2 of the billionaires and millionare business owners are on average paying no federal tax?
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