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Old 03-07-2017, 07:00 AM
 
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Here's another little fact, for those of you who are ignorant, on who pays all the taxes.

The top 1 percent (1.3 million filers) paid a greater share of income taxes (37.8 percent) than the bottom 90 percent (124.5 million filers) combined (30.2 percent).

https://taxfoundation.org/summary-la...a-2015-update/
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Old 03-07-2017, 07:04 AM
 
Location: Here
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Hey! We're broke but lets continue to bring in more and more Third World "immigrants" in to get on board the Gravy Train.
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Old 03-07-2017, 07:23 AM
 
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Hey! We're broke but lets continue to bring in more and more Third World "immigrants" in to get on board the Gravy Train.
Yep, they just love to spend other peoples money.
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Old 03-07-2017, 07:29 AM
 
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Well they shouldn't of done it when they did it back then. A lot of individuals need to be dependent on the Government for financial assistance.

Few things need to occur one is decriminalizing use of various illicit drugs. Need to legalize marijuana and utilize tax off of it to help fund a universal mental health service.

Need to place work requirements of 10 hours a week and limits can be on welfare. 36 months and can reapply after 12 month's. Until States adopt a loving wage. State financial assistance determines a living wage based off the size of your family household and calculates that to a monthly total. The difference between the monthly total and current income is how much financial assistance receive from the Government. WIC or Disability would not be affected by this. Individuals can work while on Disability.

To receive Government Assistance must have a Social Security ID and be in SS database.

Increase taxes on social security to better fund it. In addition to, have a separate 403B run by the Government where money put in will be matched by 2% by the Government that then can be added on to SS when retiring.

Turn abandoned hotels and schools into temporary housing for the homeless. In addition to, create work programs and training programs for the homeless. Utilize homeless to build rustic cottages on abandoned lots in cities. Pick up trash. Work on various road projects.

Increase funding to build inexpensive housing, Section 8, and HUD houses.

Universal Health Care for those 65 and older.

Individuals are not eligible for Medicaid if incarcerated.

Temporary Government financial assistance and health insurance for 24 month's if unemployed or homeless.

State pays for health insurance for those on disability.

State run health insurance market with various private insurance companies. Various tiers of State insurance. As we know one if homeless or unemployed. 2nd tier for those on Disability. 3rd tier individuals receiving financial assistance from the State. The insurance is adjusted based off of their income prior to receiving Government assistance and size of household. 4th tier is open to the Public insurance is adjusted based off of income. There is a 2% fee added on to premiums if individual makes more than $80,000 and purchases State Insurance.

Tax on Catastrophic Healthcare as well.

Also reduce costs to Healthcare and Pharmaceutical drugs. Healthcare providers determine cosy of care insurance companies pay their percentage. Pharmaceuticals government gives funding to smaller businesses to create a competitive market. Reduces FDA regulation on pharmaceuticals to make market competitive.

Tax paid childcare for those on Government assistance. Those who are not and make under $120,000 the Government will designate various day cares to use in the area or a work sponsored day care. The Government pays the percentage of how much child care cost deducted from yearly income. So if you make $100K and it cost $24K a year 24% is covered, $5,760.

Universal healthcare for men & women serving Active Duty in the military. Covers their dependents as well. After 4 years of Active not 2 active & 2 inactive eligible to receive Universal care outside of the hospital.

For every year serving Active Duty from 4 years on determines length of eligibility to receive Universal Healthcare coverage.

Special insurance that includes reduced rates, wide array of coverage, and access to US healthcare facilities for any individual who has left the military and does not qualify for universal care. Those in the Reserve and Guards during their service are not pulled to Active Duty receive tax credits. Government offers a 50% rebate off their yearly deduction of health insurance.

Work in lowering student interest rates and create a longer period of deferment from 2 to 5 years. Payments are deducted from paychecks and the amount is adjusted based off of income.

Last edited by RunD1987; 03-07-2017 at 08:18 AM..
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Old 03-07-2017, 07:30 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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How so?

45% of American households pay no federal tax. Are you saying 1/2 of the billionaires and millionare business owners are on average paying no federal tax?
Actually 26%. (Most who dont pay are old and/or destitute) Payroll tax is a tax. You forgot the term Federal Income Tax.


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Here's another little fact, for those of you who are ignorant, on who pays all the taxes.

The top 1 percent (1.3 million filers) paid a greater share of income taxes (37.8 percent) than the bottom 90 percent (124.5 million filers) combined (30.2 percent).

https://taxfoundation.org/summary-la...a-2015-update/
They pay 38% of the federal income tax and own 40% of the wealth.

FWIW Im for lowering the corp tax rates to say 20% for competitive sake and reducing subsidies at the same time. I also have no problem with deporting illegal aliens.
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Old 03-07-2017, 07:41 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Pick your poison!

Throw them off welfare, they become homeless, and it costs the taxpayers, on a national average, $42,500 a year to have one homeless person on our streets.

They're forced to commit crimes to stay alive, and off to prison they go, and! Indirect and directs costs of incarceration: $40-50k a year!
Odd that thousands do just fine begging instead of stealing here locally.
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Old 03-07-2017, 08:32 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Well they shouldn't of done it when they did it back then. A lot of individuals need to be dependent on the Government for financial assistance.

Few things need to occur one is decriminalizing use of various illicit drugs. Need to legalize marijuana and utilize tax off of it to help fund a universal mental health service.

Need to place work requirements of 10 hours a week and limits can be on welfare. 36 months and can reapply after 12 month's. Until States adopt a loving wage. State financial assistance determines a living wage based off the size of your family household and calculates that to a monthly total. The difference between the monthly total and current income is how much financial assistance receive from the Government. WIC or Disability would not be affected by this. Individuals can work while on Disability.

To receive Government Assistance must have a Social Security ID and be in SS database.

Increase taxes on social security to better fund it. In addition to, have a separate 403B run by the Government where money put in will be matched by 2% by the Government that then can be added on to SS when retiring.

Turn abandoned hotels and schools into temporary housing for the homeless. In addition to, create work programs and training programs for the homeless. Utilize homeless to build rustic cottages on abandoned lots in cities. Pick up trash. Work on various road projects.

Increase funding to build inexpensive housing, Section 8, and HUD houses.

Universal Health Care for those 65 and older.

Individuals are not eligible for Medicaid if incarcerated.

Temporary Government financial assistance and health insurance for 24 month's if unemployed or homeless.

State pays for health insurance for those on disability.

State run health insurance market with various private insurance companies. Various tiers of State insurance. As we know one if homeless or unemployed. 2nd tier for those on Disability. 3rd tier individuals receiving financial assistance from the State. The insurance is adjusted based off of their income prior to receiving Government assistance and size of household. 4th tier is open to the Public insurance is adjusted based off of income. There is a 2% fee added on to premiums if individual makes more than $80,000 and purchases State Insurance.

Tax on Catastrophic Healthcare as well.

Also reduce costs to Healthcare and Pharmaceutical drugs. Healthcare providers determine cosy of care insurance companies pay their percentage. Pharmaceuticals government gives funding to smaller businesses to create a competitive market. Reduces FDA regulation on pharmaceuticals to make market competitive.

Tax paid childcare for those on Government assistance. Those who are not and make under $120,000 the Government will designate various day cares to use in the area or a work sponsored day care. The Government pays the percentage of how much child care cost deducted from yearly income. So if you make $100K and it cost $24K a year 24% is covered, $5,760.

Universal healthcare for men & women serving Active Duty in the military. Covers their dependents as well. After 4 years of Active not 2 active & 2 inactive eligible to receive Universal care outside of the hospital.

For every year serving Active Duty from 4 years on determines length of eligibility to receive Universal Healthcare coverage.

Special insurance that includes reduced rates, wide array of coverage, and access to US healthcare facilities for any individual who has left the military and does not qualify for universal care. Those in the Reserve and Guards during their service are not pulled to Active Duty receive tax credits. Government offers a 50% rebate off their yearly deduction of health insurance.

Work in lowering student interest rates and create a longer period of deferment from 2 to 5 years. Payments are deducted from paychecks and the amount is adjusted based off of income.
I am against work requirements for assistance, because in reality, NO EMPLOYER IS FORCED TO GIVE YOU A JOB. So that screws over someone who is legitimately looking for a job, but keeps getting passed up for other candidates
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Old 03-07-2017, 08:42 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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US Welfare Spending for 2017 - Charts
Currently we are spending 1.127 trillion dollars on welfare benefits. This consists of welfare and medicaid. That works out to a little over 3500 dollars for every man, woman and child in the U.S.
Can we continue to spend 1/3 of every tax dollar on welfare?
I am not against helping those in need but it seems as if we need a different approach to helping.
why don't you help us out and share with us what you are including as "welfare"?
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Old 03-07-2017, 08:58 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Just wanted to respond to a few of your points:

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Need to place work requirements of 10 hours a week and limits can be on welfare...Individuals can work while on Disability.
huh? TANF has a work requirement and is limited in time from 12-60 months depending on the state. If a person can work and is receiving SSI or SSDI they are receiving it fraudulently. Only people who can't work are supposed to be receiving those benefits.
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To receive Government Assistance must have a Social Security ID and be in SS database.
That is already a requirement
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Increase taxes on social security to better fund it. In addition to, have a separate 403B run by the Government where money put in will be matched by 2% by the Government that then can be added on to SS when retiring.
sounds like a decent idea
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Turn abandoned hotels and schools into temporary housing for the homeless. In addition to, create work programs and training programs for the homeless. Utilize homeless to build rustic cottages on abandoned lots in cities. Pick up trash. Work on various road projects.
Good idea but your assumption seems to be that all homeless people are capable of working, many are old, disabled or mentally ill so they aren't well suited for 'training programs' and unless homelessness is made a crime, you can't mandate certain work activities for the homeless.
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Individuals are not eligible for Medicaid if incarcerated.
I guess you are implying that incarcerated people shouldn't receive healthcare? You might want to research that, SCOTUS has held that people in jails and prison have a constitutional right to healthcare, the feds prohibit them from receiving medicaid while incarcerated, it would be cheaper for the taxpayer if they could receive medicaid while incarcerated.
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State run health insurance market with various private insurance companies.
?? States were able to run their own marketplaces through the ACA
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Old 03-07-2017, 09:04 AM
 
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Can we continue spending $600B every year on military (now increasing by 52B under Trump)?
I'm not against the military, but more money on that?
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