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Old 03-07-2017, 08:40 PM
 
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Old 03-07-2017, 08:44 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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So now we have the White House Counsel interfering with an investigation attempting to get a copy of an FBI FISA warrant assuming one even exists, not to mention Reince Priebus asking the FBI to put out a statement last month.


Another reason whey we need a completely independent investigation.




https://www.palmerreport.com/news/do...tigation/1784/
1. the whitehouse LAWYER asking for a document under the freedom of information act is not illegal...its due diligence

2. snowden outed obozo and the nsa for illegal wiretaps of millions of people to include the chancellor of Germany

3. Obama did ILLEGALLY wiretap trump...obozo plays the 'Chicago way' to make sure the puppet of hitlery got elected....(very reminiscent of what Nixon did)

4. priebus asked the fbi to VERIFY the statement.... the fbi has been very silent so far....but it looks like Obama could be very easily charged
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Old 03-07-2017, 08:48 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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the fisa court bypasses the constitution when used against american citizens, and those legally in this country. it basically abrogates the fourth, and fifth amendments. american citizens do not get the chance to contest the warrant, in fact they dont even get to know about the warrant, and imo that is unconstitutional. when used against people outside the US, i have no issue with that.

There is a special set of rules regarding US citizens that are inadvertently captured in a wiretap, the rules are extremely stringent.


Who knows maybe Trump can find some time to shed some light on his rather large contention, or did he have a gag order imposed by his handlers before he dug a deeper hole. Don't you find the fact that he indicated this is larger than Watergate and then disappeared from sight the least bit unusual, and then he directs the White House Counsel to track down the supposed FISA Warrant. I mean what was the information he acted on, was it real or imaginary or did he just use Mark Levine as a credible source.
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Old 03-07-2017, 08:49 PM
 
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1. the whitehouse LAWYER asking for a document under the freedom of information act is not illegal...its due diligence

2. snowden outed obozo and the nsa for illegal wiretaps of millions of people to include the chancellor of Germany

3. Obama did ILLEGALLY wiretap trump...obozo plays the 'Chicago way' to make sure the puppet of hitlery got elected....(very reminiscent of what Nixon did)

4. priebus asked the fbi to VERIFY the statement.... the fbi has been very silent so far....but it looks like Obama could be very easily charged
How do you sleep with yourself at night condoning Trump and coming up with alternative cr*p like this? You're so ignored bigly....

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Old 03-07-2017, 08:53 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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1. the whitehouse LAWYER asking for a document under the freedom of information act is not illegal...its due diligence

2. snowden outed obozo and the nsa for illegal wiretaps of millions of people to include the chancellor of Germany

3. Obama did ILLEGALLY wiretap trump...obozo plays the 'Chicago way' to make sure the puppet of hitlery got elected....(very reminiscent of what Nixon did)

4. priebus asked the fbi to VERIFY the statement.... the fbi has been very silent so far....but it looks like Obama could be very easily charged
He cannot request an FISA Warrant under the Freedom of Information Act, that is absurd. FISA warrants are some of the most closely guarded documents.


Priebus asked Comey to discount a media account of his investigation, that is also ridiculous.
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Old 03-07-2017, 08:55 PM
 
Location: Eugene, Oregon
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There is no proof whatsoever that the "Obama administration" spied on a political opponent. Nobody--not Levin, or Breitbart or Trump has produced one iota of evidence.

Your logic is that A plus B equals D.

Let's have an independent investigation. Let Trump produce evidence.

That's as close to logical as the "newspeak" cult of Trump ever gets. It's all the closer they have to get, to convince each other and that's all that matters to them. The biggest mistake we can make, is to try to make any sense of what they say. If they get others to even listen to them at all, they've scored a victory. They should be marginalized and ignored, as any delusional and ranting person would have been, back when sanity was the default state of mind.
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Old 03-07-2017, 08:55 PM
 
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There is no proof whatsoever that the "Obama administration" spied on a political opponent.
You don't know that. I don't either. So let me ask, do you really want a serious investigation? Especially when people begin to realize this whole mess was created by Democrats and the MSM desperate to sabotage Trump. Personally, I'd like to see this happen The Crisis and the Truth | The Weekly Standard

Do you Democrats have the chutzpah for this, even when people begin to realize the Democrats deliberately sabotaged America's ability to work with Russia because they hated Trump?
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Old 03-07-2017, 09:22 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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That is an alternative fact. The Russians in the US are wiretapped. Nobody has disputed that.

Trump associates were tapped when they communicated on Russian wiretapped lines.

Stop making up falsehoods without presenting any evidence.

There is no proof whatsoever that the "Obama administration" spied on a political opponent. Nobody--not Levin, or Breitbart or Trump has produced one iota of evidence.

Your logic is that A plus B equals D.

Let's have an independent investigation. Let Trump produce evidence.
Flynn is Amrican. All MSM published articles about agencies listening to his communication. There might be a FISA warrant for him.
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Old 03-07-2017, 09:49 PM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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I love it, you just admitted to the spying on Trump. You dems insisted all this was made up, and there was no wiretapping.

The White House wants to see a warrant targeting the president, and you call it interfering with an investigation.

What would it hurt for the White House counsel to see the FISA warrant?
LLve how the left wants it both ways.
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Old 03-08-2017, 05:23 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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You don't know that. I don't either. So let me ask, do you really want a serious investigation? Especially when people begin to realize this whole mess was created by Democrats and the MSM desperate to sabotage Trump. Personally, I'd like to see this happen The Crisis and the Truth | The Weekly Standard

Do you Democrats have the chutzpah for this, even when people begin to realize the Democrats deliberately sabotaged America's ability to work with Russia because they hated Trump?
The current mess was created by Trump with his ridiculous rant, if this is in fact bigger than Watergate let's see some more tweet facts. I don't see how you ignore all the Russian connections to this campaign at some point you have to wonder if there are other countries out there.


Trump can gain pretty much access everything, is it a good idea to seek documents from the Justice Dept if they are in the middle of an investigation. Besides the fact that that McGahn, the white house counsel, didn't even offer a reason why he felt Trump was wiretapped. So you have Trump asking for information regarding a possible wiretap from his own Justice Department in the middle of an investigation about Russian connections to the Trump campaign, do you see a problem?

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