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How do you destroy an ideology? You can kill people, you can kill the leaders, but more will take up the banner and fight on.
Us, as foreigners, cannot do it, but when other muslims turn on groups like ISIS, it sends a much more powerful statement, that their ideology is rejected even by their own people. This is why ISIS was hoping for US to send in ground troops, because that would have made the war into a Islam against the West 'holy war'.
Us, as foreigners, cannot do it, but when other muslims turn on groups like ISIS, it sends a much more powerful statement, that their ideology is rejected even by their own people. This is why ISIS was hoping for US to send in ground troops, because that would have made the war into a Islam against the West 'holy war'.
Exactly! We can send in as many big guns as we have, but that will not destroy ISIS only the people there can fix this problem. Like any ideology it will take time and changing the way people think to eradicate it.
We should have never been over there meddling in the first place, and now we have another President continuing the failed policies of the one before him.
Support more of accepting children/women refugees from Syria. Saudia Arabia and surrounding nations start to become involved detaining any fleeing ISIS terrotist and be sent to trial with the ICJ. Clandestine and targeted bombings collaborated with many nations. IN Security forces and US forces train men to fight back for their country. Red Cross provides international aid and various nations provide health assistance. Multi nations work towards creating a Syrian government that supports democracy.
Exactly! We can send in as many big guns as we have, but that will not destroy ISIS only the people there can fix this problem. Like any ideology it will take time and changing the way people think to eradicate it.
We should have never been over there meddling in the first place, and now we have another President continuing the failed policies of the one before him.
In all fairness, Ron Paul might be the only one who had a good foreign policy.
You had to choose between Hillary and Trump. Trump at least won't fight two wars at the same time. I really hope he let the Russians handling it.
I have to wonder just who the "allied forces" are we are supporting here. These convoluted and mixed up conflicts like Syria I would prefer to not see our people having to be in harms way with. If we just HAVE to support whatever "Ally" here the Navy could handle such support from offshore. With missiles and aircraft. Having toput in a forward deployed artillery unit, within rocket range of hostile forces, seems odd tome. But hey, I'm not on the joint chiefs. Mores the pity....
In all fairness, the Artillery guys are there. Better than special forces, special forces are not Captain America. I have had so many friends with force recons, many of them didn't make it.
Artillery guys might do some real damages. I wonder if the India Battery 3/12 is there. These are some legendary war fighters.
Artillery is a class of large military weapons built to fire munitions far beyond the range and power of infantry's small arms
My father fought in Korea, my uncle in Vietnam, my spouse & I in Desert Shield/Storm and my son in Iraq. I know what artillery is. My father was almost killed by a Chinese artillery shell.
Artillery fire is nothing new. Does anybody here think that it hasn't been used before in Syria? Please.
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well, I'd rather deal with now because it is the Marines who have to die.
They don't have to, we can bring the,m all home, Syria will remain a cesspool whether Marines die or not, NOT our problem to attempt fixing.
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Between Hillary and Trump, I think Trump is less of a hawk. plus, he is not going to fight two wars at the same time. Both (Hillary and Trump) will have to deal with ISIS (well, this is the reality, I don't like it, but I know this is the reality)
But why can't those most threatened by ISIS defeat them? How is it ISIS has better forces than entire nations with trained forces?
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So it is better sending in the Artillery guys.
Since artillery is only useful if you have identified targets, if we simply MUST be involved, I'd prefer we send in the Air Force, less likelihood of more young men and women coming home the wrong way.
My father fought in Korea, my uncle in Vietnam, my spouse & I in Desert Shield/Storm and my son in Iraq. I know what artillery is. My father was almost killed by a Chinese artillery shell.
Artillery fire is nothing new. Does anybody here think that it hasn't been used before in Syria? Please.
I was not trying to tell you what artillery means. Just making a point, that is all. I know you and your spouse are veterans, you have said it often.
Like I said, if Marines have to be sent, it is better to send in the artillery than special forces.
Never said artillery fire is anything new. Just saying it is BETTER to send in the artillery guys than the special forces.
Come on, you know the American politicians must defeat ISIS, Trump or Hillary, no difference.
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