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Right. Because it's the Democrats who oppose raising the minimum wage or making any kind of paid time off mandatory, and it's the Democrats who want to do away with any kind of regulations on business, including those that protect the health and safety of workers.
Thanks for enlightening me. I think I'll go register as a Republican now.
Bernie Sanders has always caucused with Democrats, and they are perfectly comfortable with him. He was rising in the polls and we know how that ended. If there is a distinction between him and Obama on anything major, what is it?
- Both pushed "universal health care."
- Both believe in the redistribution of income.
- Obama wants 2 years of "free" community college. Sanders wants to make college "free" altogether.
- Both belong to the school of economics that says, "you didn't build that."
Obama considered universal healthcare for like a second. He really didn't push hard for that, and I'm frankly not even comfortably calling it a push. Neither supports income redistribution because that doesn't mean anything very specific. It's broad enough to mean the government supplies all income, which neither support, or mean they support a minimal level of welfare at least, which is true at least for both, as well as many, probably most, people.
Their college plans aren't really that similar. Two years of community college is not the same as four at a public university. Those are two different things. As for the "you didn't build that" I wouldn't call that a school of thought. I assume this is saying that someone born wealthy is at an advantage, which isn't really an issue of opinion. That's how it works. How one interprets that is up in the air, but anyone who denies that being born wealthy gives you an advantage is an idiot. Or at least lacks empathy.
Overall, I'd say Sanders is more principled. He has a point of view and he does a pretty good job at sticking with it. Obama may almost agree with much of Sanders' platform, but as his presidency showed, he doesn't necessarily fight for those views and will compromise them quite quickly. Not that compromise is bad, but the ACA was not a good replacement for what he was originally talking about.
The difference is I and other Democrats aren't advocating for government ownership of all businesses. THAT is socialism. I am in support of capitalism, but with redistribution, because laissez-faire capitalism is horrible at allocating resources, it gives a few more than they'll ever need while starving the vast majority.
Democrats who believe in redistribution of wealth and government control of some of the means of production--like the health care system.
The best argument against Sanders' health plan is the essential case against socialism--redistributionism: it reduces incentives, which leads to poverty. Why would I work hard if it's all going to be paid for by some other sucker?
Obama considered universal healthcare for like a second. He really didn't push hard for that, and I'm frankly not even comfortably calling it a push. Neither supports income redistribution because that doesn't mean anything very specific. It's broad enough to mean the government supplies all income, which neither support, or mean they support a minimal level of welfare at least, which is true at least for both, as well as many, probably most, people.
Their college plans aren't really that similar. Two years of community college is not the same as four at a public university. Those are two different things. As for the "you didn't build that" I wouldn't call that a school of thought. I assume this is saying that someone born wealthy is at an advantage, which isn't really an issue of opinion. That's how it works. How one interprets that is up in the air, but anyone who denies that being born wealthy gives you an advantage is an idiot. Or at least lacks empathy.
Overall, I'd say Sanders is more principled. He has a point of view and he does a pretty good job at sticking with it. Obama may almost agree with much of Sanders' platform, but as his presidency showed, he doesn't necessarily fight for those views and will compromise them quite quickly. Not that compromise is bad, but the ACA was not a good replacement for what he was originally talking about.
I was not born wealthy and I busted my ass to build that. So you can take that part of your argument and put it where the sun don't shine.
Some kids don't take HS serious and we want to keep paying for more of it? What a waste.
Democrats who believe in a robust redistribution of wealth and government control of some of the means of production--like the health care system.
The best argument against Sanders' health plan is the essential case against socialism--redistributionism: it reduces incentives, which leads to poverty. Why would I work hard if it's all going to be paid for by some other sucker?
AMEN. Inner city slums full of unproductive, never working adults prove your point well.
Socialism is workers owning the means of production. Worker co-operatives are socialist.
The US Postal Service is owned by government. It would be brutal for Joe Sixpacks in rural America if we fully privatized all postal services.
There is a girl at our post office. The girl is terrible, verbally abusive and is just nasty. Everyone complains about her, she has a reputation all over the area. Do you think they can fire her? Of course not, she works for government and government workers don't have to do a good job.
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