School orders boy to "tolerate" undressing with girl and make it "natural" (Houston, world)

[RedZin]

Originally Posted by Mikelee81

People should be allowed to walk around naked without fear of assault?

I wonder what world you're living in. It is not reality, and your comments reveal a very idealistic view of human nature.

Long story short, it doesn't work.

This is the danger of having people that think like this run the country. No you don't throw gasoline on a burning fire and expect it to contain itself, especially when you are talking adolescent teenagers.

Time to come down to reality.

Of course, they should be able to. Naturally, you can have societal rules regarding what is considered decent coverage (for people of all genders), but those rules should be fair.

If a woman going shirtless in public is illegal, same is true for a man.

People do walk around naked. Nudist colonies, nude beaches... these places exist.

[InformedConsent]

Originally Posted by gallowsCalibrator

Happens at nudist beaches just fine. People walk around naked and aren't typically gangbanged by a bunch of testosterone-fueled men without consent.

People go to a nudist beach by choice and consent. Kids in school don't have that right/luxury.

[InformedConsent]

Originally Posted by gallowsCalibrator

So they were totally okay with a homosexual changing around a bunch of strapping young men?

Same anatomical genitals in a single-sex facility. How is that hard to understand?

[Howest2008]

Originally Posted by jimj

So, now one child's sexual identity issues outweigh the rights of many others? Would y'all be ok with your teenage boy getting undressed in the same locker room with teen girls or visa versa? I won't even go into the involuntary physical reaction that many teen boys would have when seeing a naked girl standing there. Could be embarrassing as all hell... The Principal told the parents that the BOY should use the nurses office to change if he had a problem changing with girls or just withdraw from school and be home schooled.
Anyone else think this is insane? Why shouldn't the "girl" change in the nurses office or stay home?



School orders boy to tolerate undressing with girl and make it natural | Fox News

The true answer to this dilemma is to wait until the transgender process is completed. All boys would lose their penises and all girls would lose their vaginas " problem solved " right?!?!?!?

Transgenders are trying to change society outlook on them , pretty much like the homosexual marriage crowd did when they threw Domestic Partnerships and Civil Unions under the "Bus" to pursuit Homosexual Marriage.

This is just a pit stop on the way to the Supreme Court of the United States of America.

[crone]

Originally Posted by Mikelee81

People should be allowed to walk around naked without fear of assault?

I wonder what world you're living in. It is not reality, and your comments reveal a very idealistic view of human nature.

Long story short, it doesn't work.

This is the danger of having people that think like this run the country. No you don't throw gasoline on a burning fire and expect it to contain itself, especially when you are talking adolescent teenagers.

Time to come down to reality.

Some of us very old women are getting damned tired of the football rape culture. And their lazy arse advocates.

Some of us raised boys who learned about their bodies and what is acceptable and what is not.

If humans think they are the highest of the animal kingdom, they need to damn well learn how to control their animal instincts.

You think adolescent teenagers are incapable of self control.

Thank goodness my grandson have competent parents. They are all in college and grad school and have never felt compelled to assault or grope any person.

One went off to a camp that encouraged group skinny dipping from early elementary age until they aged out. The kids spent all summer together skinny dipping every day. No one was ever assaulted.

[MongooseHugger]

I know the following companies are ok with such crap, hence why I won't work at any of them:

Affirm, Inc.
Airbnb, Inc.
Amazon.com, Inc.
Apple
Asana, Inc.
Box, Inc.
Codecademy
Credo Mobile, Inc.
Dropbox, Inc.
eBay Inc.
Etsy
Fastly, Inc.
Flipboard, Inc.
Gap Inc.
General Assembly
GitHub, Inc.
IBM
Intel Corporation
Kickstarter
PBC
Knotel, Inc.
LinkedIn
Lyft
M Booth
MAC Cosmetics Inc.
Mapbox, Inc.
Marin Software Incorporated
Massachusetts Mutual Life Insurance
Microsoft Corporation
Mitchell Gold + Bob Williams
MongoDB Inc.
NetApp, Inc.
Next Fifteen Communications Corporation
Nextdoor
Pandora Media, Inc.
PayPal Holdings, Inc.
Postmates Inc.
Replacements, Ltd.
RetailMeNot, Inc.
Salesforce
Shutterstock, Inc.
Slack Technologies, Inc.
Spotify
The OutCast Agency
The WhiteWave Foods Company
Tumblr, Inc.
Twilio Inc.
Twitter Inc.
Udacity, Inc.
Warby Parker
Williams-Sonoma, Inc.
Yahoo! Inc.
Yelp Inc.
Zendesk, Inc.

Source: https://2ndvote.com/tech-companies-t...genda-schools/


And these jerks wrote Tennessee to push the same thing, hence why I won't work at any of those places either:

Laura Alber, President and Chief Executive Of icer, Williams*Sonoma, Inc.
Karen Appleton, Senior Vice President, Box
Brandee Barker, Cofounder and Partner, Pramana Collective
Marc Beniof , Chairman and CEO, Salesforce
Michael Birch, Founder, The Battery
Neil Blumenthal, Co*founder and Co*CEO, Warby Parker
Steven Boal, CEO, Quotient
Craig Bromley, President, John Hancock Financial
Lesley Slaton Brown, Chief Diversity Of icer, HP Inc.
Wes Bush, Chairman, CEO and President of Northrop Grumman
Lloyd Carney, CEO, Brocade Communications Systems, Inc.
Marc Casper, President and CEO, Thermo Fisher Scientific, Inc.
Sukhinder Singh Cassidy, Founder and CEO, Joyus
Amy Chang, CEO, Accompany
Giovanni Colella, CEO, Castlight Health, Inc.
Alex Constantinople, CEO, The OutCast Agency
Chad Dickerson, CEO, Etsy
Lynne Doughtie, Chairman and CEO, KPMG LLP
Amy Erret, Founder and CEO, Madison*Reed
Jared Fliesler, General Partner, Matrix Partners
Jennifer Fonstad, Cofounder and Managing Partner, Aspect Ventures
Joe Gebbia, Cofounder and CPO, Airbnb
Dave Gilboa, Co*founder and Co*CEO, Warby Parker
Jason Goldberg, Founder, Pepo
Julia Hartz, Cofounder and President, Eventbrite
David Hassell, CEO, 15Five
Gerald Hassell, Chairman and Chief Executive Of icer, BNY Mellon
Robert Hohman, Founder and CEO, Glassdoor
Drew Houston, CEO, Dropbox
Laurene Powell Jobs, Founder and Chair, Emerson Collective
Steve Joyce, President and Chief Executive Of icer, Choice Hotels International, Inc.
Travis Kalanick, CEO, Uber
David Karp, Founder and CEO, Tumblr
Travis Katz, CEO, Gogobot
Klaus Kleinfeld, Chairman and Chief Executive Of icer, Alcoa Inc.
Brian Krzanich, CEO, Intel
William P. Lauder, Executive Chairman, The Estée Lauder Companies Inc.
Sarah Leary, Cofounder, Nextdoor
Aileen Lee, Founder and Managing Partner, Cowboy Ventures
John Legere, President & CEO, T*Mobile US
Max Levchin, CEO, Af irm, Inc.
Aaron Levie, CEO, Box
Dion Lim, CEO, NextLesson
Andrew N. Liveris, CEO and Chairman of the Board, The Dow Chemical Company
Joe Lonsdale, General Partner, 8VC
Tom Mangas, CEO, Starwood Hotels & Resorts Worldwide
Melody McCloskey, Founder, StyleSeat
Ryan McDonough, CFO, Accompany
Dr. Nathan Myhrvold, Founder and CEO, Intellectual Ventures
Christopher J. Nassetta, President & Chief Executive Of icer, Hilton Worldwide
Lorrie Norrington, Operating Partner, Lead Edge Capital
Bob Page, Chairman and CEO, Replacements, Ltd.
Sunil Paul, Founding Partner, Spring Ventures
Michelle Peluso, CEO, Gilt
Lars Petersson, President, IKEA US
Mark Pincus, Founder and Executive Chairman, Zynga
Dan Rosensweig, CEO, Chegg Inc.
Kevin Ryan, Founder and Chairman, AlleyCorp
Gary Shapiro, President and CEO, Consumer Technology Association
Tom Sheahan, CEO, Red Oxygen
Ben Stevenson, Data Engineer, Accompany
Jeremy Stoppelman, CEO, Yelp
Jerry Stritzke, President and CEO, REI
Christopher J. Swift, Chairman and CEO, The Hartford
Brian Tippens, Vice President, Chief Diversity Of icer, Hewlett Packard Enterprise
David Tisch, Managing Partner, BoxGroup
Nirav Tolia, Cofounder and CEO, Nextdoor
Anne Wojcicki, CEO, 23andMe
Robert Wolfe, CEO, CrowdRise
Emanuel Seth Yekutiel, CEO, ESY Strategies
John Zimmer, Cofounder and President, Lyft

Source: http://hrc-assets.s3-website-us-east...nessLetter.pdf


And that goes for these creeps from Michigan as well:

Ann Arbor/Ypsilanti Regional Chamber
Atomic Object
Bernstein Law Firm
Detroit LGBT Chamber of Commerce
Fuel Leadership, LLC
Henry Ford Health Systems
Herman Miller
Honigman
Irwin Seating Company
Issue Media Group
Kellogg Co.
Michigan League for Public Policy
Padnos
Pepper Hamilton LLP
Professional Property Management
Talent 2025
The Dow Chemical Co.
Whirlpool Corporation
The WW Group

Source: http://www.michcwc.org/news/2016/5/2...bt-legislation

Or these companies who push these policies in Massachusetts:

Alliance for Business Leadership

Apple Inc.

Ashia Ray Photography

Atrius Health

Au Bon Pain

Bella Luna Restaurant/Milky Way Lounge

Biogen Inc.

Blue Cross Blue Shield of Massachusetts

Boston Community Capital

Boston Foundation

Burns & Levinson LLP

Cambridge Eats and Beats

Cambridge Innovation Center

CeltiCare Health

Cisco

Cobblestones Restaurant

The Coca-Cola Company

Dedham Medical Associates

Delta Dental of Massachusetts

Eastern Bank

EMC

Facebook

Glove Cleaners Inc.

Gonzalez & Associates, PC

Google

Greater Boston Chamber of Commerce

Harvard Pilgrim HealthCare

Hill Holliday

InkHouse

Iron Mountain

John Hancock

J.P. Licks

Korn Ferry

Lesser Newman Aleo and Nasser LLP

Liberty Mutual Insurance

Locke Lord

Loring, Wolcott & Coolidge

Massachusetts Association of Health Plans

Massachusetts Business Roundtable

Massachusetts Nurses Association

Massachusetts Restaurant Association

MassBIO

MassChallenge

MassMutual Financial Group

Melwood Global

Microsoft

Moonstones Restaurant

Multi-Service Eating Disorders Association

National Grid

New England Venture Capital Association

Newton-Needham Chamber of Commerce

Partners HealthCare

PayPal

Pine Village Preschool

Reflection Films

Reinventure Capital

Rockland Trust Company

Salesforce

Seyfarth Shaw LLP

State Street

Suffolk Construction

TD Garden

Techstars

Twitter

Uber

VCA Inc.

Verrill Dana

Visiting Angels of Newton and Canton

Wayfair

Zipcar

Source: http://www.mass.gov/ago/docs/policy/...ality-bill.pdf

[MongooseHugger]

Obama's Department of Injustice forced this on a school in Illinois, threatening to pull federal funding unless a boy who calls himself a girl (AKA transgender) was ordered to be allowed into a girls locker room. The girls were told to deal with it, so they now go in with clothes under their gym clothes.

High School Girls Don


I think the Left is a menace to society. They put boys in girls lockrooms and let unvetted 18, etc year old illegals to come in and register as freshmen and expect nothing to happen.

[wallflash]

Originally Posted by Scooby Snacks

Not this again. There is more to life than bathrooms, boys, and girls. I agree it's a bad idea and the school district shouldn't allow it. However, parents of teenagers should have taught teenagers self control and responsibility for their actions, should they not? The implication here is that if a teenage boy (or girl) sees a naked person of the opposite sex, they won't be able to control their lustful urges, and they will sexually harass or rape the other student and it's the school's fault. That's complete and utter B.S.

Teenagers have control over their actions. Every good parent teaches their kid not to touch someone else without their permission and if they do, it's on them. If the teenager is going to have sex with another, they're going to do it with or without the assistance of a locker room.

BTW, some teenagers are gay, and being naked in the locker room with persons of the same sex is exactly the same for them as heterosexual teenagers being together. Also, just because you're naked in the locker room with someone doesn't mean the person will be attractive to you. Teens are the same way. Anyone who has been out on a beach and seen people in skimpy swimsuits knows this.

Lets just leave it with your point that its a bad idea and the schools shouldnt do this.

The rest is unnecessary in these cases. It shouldnt be happening, no buts or howevers.

[wallflash]

Originally Posted by RedZin

Serious question...

Why?

Are the toilets in men's rooms and women's rooms somehow different? I mean, you have urinals in men's rooms, but you know you can pee in that toilet in the stall, right?

I'm a woman. Have used a variety of restrooms over the years.

Never been in one with a special "vagina receptacle" sort of a thing that I had to pee into that made a women's room a better place for me to use than a men's room.

I mean, I go to the women's room because I am generally more comfortable in them. I feel like everyone else should be able to choose.

Unisex works fine for RRs. It doesnt for locker or dressing rooms.

[wallflash]

Originally Posted by RedZin

Are you still in high school?

Nobody cares what you want to pretend or not want to pretend. If you find yourself in a locker room and are uncomfortable with any of the occupants you can always choose to change in a closet, a bathroom stall, etc.

The world is full of options. Ain't life grand?

Why cant the trans make the choice to change in the locker room that matches their genitalia? Why must a male in a male locker room consider leaving it because of the presence of an anatomical female that thinks she is a male in the male locker room? Or a teenage female who doesnt want to be in a dressing room with an anatomical male

The ones not acting like adults in this entire situation are the trans folks demanding that 999 people be inconvenienced because they dont want to go to the side their anatomy matches. When will THEY decide to act like adults and realize THEY are the different ones?