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Old 03-30-2017, 01:13 PM
 
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I think that went straight over their heads.
Funnily enough, it didn't. But the states that will de-fund Planned Parenthood are the poorest states with the most limited access to healthcare for the poor. But why would poor people need healthcare?
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Old 03-30-2017, 01:15 PM
 
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States can still put money in the pot. No services have been terminated. People are free to still get whatever services they need.
A major provider will be taken off the board. Creating a vacuum. Poor people will have less access to healthcare, and specifically to reproductive healthcare.
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Old 03-30-2017, 01:16 PM
 
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It really is astounding how short-sighted red states can be. Watch how their percentages of poverty increase over time with this.

One would think red states would grasp that poor people that can't afford birth control and STD prevention are probably not who they want filling the state with unplanned children, making the very poor parents even more poor, going to schools where they will need supplemental lunch programs, are more likely to quit school early, not be able to afford college and end up on more social programs.

This is so obvious it boggles the mind.
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Old 03-30-2017, 01:18 PM
 
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This whole defunding of planned Parenthood is just a whole lot of men enforcing rules on women and dictating what they do with their bodies. Abortion is legal. Defunding PP is just authoritarian and paternalistic.
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Old 03-30-2017, 01:20 PM
 
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This whole defunding of planned Parenthood is just a whole lot of men enforcing rules on women and dictating what they do with their bodies. Abortion is legal. Defunding PP is just authoritarian and paternalistic.
While this is very much driven by red state evangelicals, it's also saving a dollar to spend a thousand.

Creating an environment where very poor people have unplanned and very poor children creates an incredible long term cost.
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Old 03-30-2017, 01:22 PM
 
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Nope, lots of red states will terminate it, and that means a massive number of low income folks with unwanted pregnancies and all the social problems that follow which the entire country will suffer from, not just the regressive states in question.
OK - and that will be their prerogative.

It's a problem anytime an unmarried woman gets pregnant who is not able to care for her child. So we can kill the child. Or, we can let the child live and give him/her a chance.
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Old 03-30-2017, 01:23 PM
 
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It really is astounding how short-sighted red states can be. Watch how their percentages of poverty increase over time with this.

One would think red states would grasp that poor people that can't afford birth control and STD prevention are probably not who they want filling the state with unplanned children, making the very poor parents even more poor, going to schools where they will need supplemental lunch programs, are more likely to quit school early, not be able to afford college and end up on more social programs.

This is so obvious it boggles the mind.
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The GOP wants live babies so they can be raised to be dead soldiers.

-George Carlin.
I think there is a lot to that. A constant stream of desperate people growing up on the margins of society is beneficial to certain sectors of society.
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Old 03-30-2017, 01:25 PM
 
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I hate how the term reproductive rights replaced abortion.
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Old 03-30-2017, 01:25 PM
 
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For all of you proclaiming the future about society being worse off... I will take the chance. Life is THAT important.
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Old 03-30-2017, 01:26 PM
 
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OK - and that will be their prerogative.

It's a problem anytime an unmarried woman gets pregnant who is not able to care for her child. So we can kill the child. Or, we can let the child live and give him/her a chance.
The whole point with birth control is to avoid pregnancies. Not to get abortions.

Why not make it easy for low income people to get the birth control services they need to avoid unwanted pregnancies? Whats so great about having lots of poor people getting far more children than they want simply because they dont easy access to birth control?
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