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Old 04-11-2017, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Georgia
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Let's adjust this comment a little:

...defending their barbarism by bringing up the Crusades barbarism?
I knew at least one would show up!
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Old 04-11-2017, 11:25 AM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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I knew at least one would show up!
No problem.
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Old 04-11-2017, 12:14 PM
 
Location: USA
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Point is: many, many Muslims are peaceful people and shouldn't be lumped together with the violent *******s who co-opt the Islamic religion for their own nefarious deeds.
Many are compatible especially secular Muslims. The exceptions being the ones that believe in Sharia for all, practice Genital mutilation (250 mil), support Misogynistic laws, live in and support Islamic Republics, live in and support the laws contrary to common western laws. I would say at least a very generous 1/3 of the worlds Islamic population are incompatible with the West. Don't you think that is a fair list?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preval...ion_by_country

Muslims and Islam: Key findings in the U.S. and around the world | Pew Research Center
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Old 04-11-2017, 12:15 PM
 
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It is ugly. Even sadder, this has been going on for thousands of years. It happened in Roman days, and it happens now.
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Old 04-11-2017, 12:47 PM
 
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Islam is not compatible with western culture.
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Mohammed Ali and others seemed to fit in just fine.
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The "Nation of Islam" is only similar to the actual Islamic religion in name.
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Religions have different sects? Imagine that. And we should condemn them all for the actions of others?

All Christians should be condemned for Westboro?
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Not at all. Just saying that pointing to Ali is a poor choice.

Plenty of peaceful Muslims. Ali wasn't one of them.

LOL Yet plenty of white Christian men watched this man box for years and bet money on the matches for their own gain.
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Old 04-11-2017, 12:48 PM
 
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Many are compatible especially secular Muslims. The exceptions being the ones that believe in Sharia for all, practice Genital mutilation (250 mil), support Misogynistic laws, live in and support Islamic Republics, live in and support the laws contrary to common western laws. I would say at least a very generous 1/3 of the worlds Islamic population are incompatible with the West. Don't you think that is a fair list?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preval...ion_by_country

Muslims and Islam: Key findings in the U.S. and around the world | Pew Research Center
I could say the same about extreme conservative and liberal Christian sects. I don't see anyone calling for their removal from this fine land of ours.
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Old 04-11-2017, 09:08 PM
 
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You want something in the last 50 years: How about Bosnia and Herzegovina? Hui Muslims attacked by Tibetan monks? Christian militias in Africa?

Yet we're stuck on combining all Muslims together. By limiting the time period you're covering up the atrocities done by Christians. The Crusaders didn't kill many people? 2 Million Muslims just decided to cease to exist? Really?

And as to the KKK during it's height of popularity, 15% of the US males supported it.
All you are doing is supporting my point that it's not the religion but the political\social climate.

I never said half of what you just claimed and frankly since I referenced the evils of Catholicism in the past I find your entire post despicable in a straw-man version of reality.

Again, IT's NOT THE RELIGION, IT'S THE SOCIETY. HOW FREAKING HARD IS THAT FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND without making excuses for backwards societies that happen to be mostly muslim?
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Old 04-11-2017, 09:09 PM
 
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No problem.
Hey look Strawman King things jews should all be exterminated.
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Old 04-11-2017, 09:24 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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Hey look Strawman King things jews should all be exterminated.
Since the end of WW1, who killed 6 Million plus Jews all over Europe? Certainly wasn't the Muslims. Outside of the Israel related issues, what Jews were killed in the Middle East and Africa by Muslims?
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Old 04-11-2017, 09:59 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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All you are doing is supporting my point that it's not the religion but the political\social climate.

I never said half of what you just claimed and frankly since I referenced the evils of Catholicism in the past I find your entire post despicable in a straw-man version of reality.

Again, IT's NOT THE RELIGION, IT'S THE SOCIETY. HOW FREAKING HARD IS THAT FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND without making excuses for backwards societies that happen to be mostly muslim?
It is the religion and what is done in the name of religion. Society limits what can be learned from religion. Look around you as most ethics today come from religion. Muslims still have ethics. Much of Europe lacks ethics. Most of the US has ethics, but it clouded from view by the large cities that lack ethics. You want to create a thread on this subject, then go for it. But this is not the thread for it.
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