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Old 04-23-2017, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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This security contractor doesn't exactly seem to have a good track record in the past (stiffing workers on overtime pay).

That said, who knows what the real story is. The contractor did allow contractors to pray, but once people wanted to pray 5 times a day, started become an issue apparently.

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politic...prayer-breaks/



Can this US company ban Muslim prayer breaks? They just did.

Do You Have to Allow Unscheduled Prayer Breaks? - The EmpLAWyerologist Firm
Good for Amazon!
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Old 04-23-2017, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Orange County/Las Vegas
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Companies and our government need to stop giving in to these types of protests in the name of tolerance and political correctness. It is like little children who whine and complain until they get their way. Once they see that it works they will want more and more etc etc........
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Old 04-23-2017, 02:58 PM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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This guy says it better than I ever could.


Yep. Pat Condell is on the money.
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Old 04-23-2017, 03:10 PM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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Go back in history in the US when business were closed on Sundays, alcohol couldn't be sold after some hour after midnight on Saturday night, Sunday retail hours, Saturday retail hours, Blue Laws, etc. Connect those dots and you should be able to connect these dots.
How is this relevant? If it weren't for strawmen, poisoning the well, ad hominem attacks, and diversion in general, the left half of this forum would be mute.

Let's talk about the here and now. What our great grandfathers did or didn't do doesn't mean squat to what this discussion is about RIGHT NOW. Not in the stone age.
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Old 04-23-2017, 04:08 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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How is this relevant? If it weren't for strawmen, poisoning the well, ad hominem attacks, and diversion in general, the left half of this forum would be mute.

Let's talk about the here and now. What our great grandfathers did or didn't do doesn't mean squat to what this discussion is about RIGHT NOW. Not in the stone age.
Totally relevant as this is a thread in relation to religion and nothing else. Christianity in the US got what they wanted through numerous decades. Judaism in the US in some much smaller way got changes made for their needs and now as Muslims grow in their presence in the US want their part. Buddhism and Hinduism will probably follow with their requests in some future generation.

Maybe you should read "Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964" and see how it relates to this thread.

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Old 04-23-2017, 04:22 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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Companies and our government need to stop giving in to these types of protests in the name of tolerance and political correctness. It is like little children who whine and complain until they get their way. Once they see that it works they will want more and more etc etc........
Them protesting and them getting what they want is not the same. It has nothing to do with tolerance or political correctness. They are attempting to bring up Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and will most likely lose like numerous other cases have through the decades for other religions.

Example:
Religious Practices In The Workplace - Legal or Not? | Kronick
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Old 04-23-2017, 04:23 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 prohibits employment discrimination based on religion. This includes refusing to accommodate an employee's sincerely held religious beliefs or practices unless the accommodation would impose an undue hardship (more than a minimal burden on operation of the business).
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Old 04-23-2017, 04:30 PM
 
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This security contractor doesn't exactly seem to have a good track record in the past (stiffing workers on overtime pay).

That said, who knows what the real story is. The contractor did allow contractors to pray, but once people wanted to pray 5 times a day, started become an issue apparently.

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politic...prayer-breaks/



Can this US company ban Muslim prayer breaks? They just did.

Do You Have to Allow Unscheduled Prayer Breaks? - The EmpLAWyerologist Firm
Its business and this is not the Middle East. They have a job to do and what if Christians sued employers for not having Good Friday off?
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Old 04-23-2017, 04:45 PM
 
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Obviously, the whole notion of when in Rome do as the Romans do is lost on Muslim Immigrants. In some ways like say for Christians in Muslim nations request to have Christmas trees and nativity plays allover urban areas there during the holidays. How would that be received the Muslims?

For some companies to give Muslims full permission to engage in prayer activities regardless of duration can only hurt Muslims in the long term as other companies avoid hiring them altogether. Let's all see how a hip liberal tech company , say in Silicon Valley will react when Muslim workers demand prayer times and spaces during the day. Will the PC SJW card holding tech community gladly oblige or see how their beloved revenues will suffer in the long run.

Islam might hold a a certain exotic mystique for globalists at present. Like in some ways , there will be a wonderful peaceful coexistence between like minds out to destroy the age old establishment in the West. Little do they full understand they are merely useful idiots and easy pawns for a movement where conquest and not harmony is the guiding principle.
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Old 04-23-2017, 10:06 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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Take your blinders off.

I don't know where to start with this piece of fiction you created. First of all not all Muslims are new first generation immigrants. So let's drop the word immigrants. Next, like every other religion in the US some are Muslim in name and some are in practice.


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Obviously, the whole notion of when in Rome do as the Romans do is lost on Muslim Immigrants. In some ways like say for Christians in Muslim nations request to have Christmas trees and nativity plays allover urban areas there during the holidays. How would that be received the Muslims?
It depends on the country.
Christmas in the Middle East - Your Middle East

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For some companies to give Muslims full permission to engage in prayer activities regardless of duration can only hurt Muslims in the long term as other companies avoid hiring them altogether. Let's all see how a hip liberal tech company , say in Silicon Valley will react when Muslim workers demand prayer times and spaces during the day. Will the PC SJW card holding tech community gladly oblige or see how their beloved revenues will suffer in the long run.
Silicon Valley is not filled with Call Centers. Thus they are pretty open to religious requests as it has little to effect on their businesses. Companies with Call Centers are stricter with religious requests as the people needed are essential for 24/7 operations.

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Islam might hold a a certain exotic mystique for globalists at present. Like in some ways , there will be a wonderful peaceful coexistence between like minds out to destroy the age old establishment in the West. Little do they full understand they are merely useful idiots and easy pawns for a movement where conquest and not harmony is the guiding principle.
You're mixing politics with religion.

People in the US freak out when businesses open on Thanksgiving Day and Christmas Day as if it were the most sinful thing done in all of history while other freak out when Muslims want what adds up to less than hour total in a standard business day.

The Muslim security guards who work for Amazon and the Muslims who marched on Amazon want more than other religions have gotten (both are not the same agenda). I've never known a Christian group to request a daytime religious prayer hour and neither have Jews (who have three per day, where one falls anywhere from 1p to 6p. The other two are early morning and late night).
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