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Old 05-14-2017, 03:51 PM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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If the Republicans were so great, why did CA voters overwhelmingly abandoned them?
Because the majority in Californication are wrong. It isn't called the land of fruits and nuts for nothing.

If liberals are so great why did the rest of the country ditch them in droves over the last 8 years while CA doubled down on the crazies? Let me guess, it's because the people in CA are sooooo much smarter than everyone else.

And then people ask what's so wrong with the left.
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Old 05-14-2017, 05:27 PM
 
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Bullhead City is much better than Needles, but beyond that, Bullhead is Meth trailer park country which can't even begin to compare to any Metropolis in California, heck, a ton of people in Bullhead work across the river - in Laughlin, NV.
Although it wasn’t clear exactly why Claypool’s went out of business, the closure roughly coincided with the opening of a Home Depot in nearby Bullhead City, Arizona, a 20-minute drive from Needles. This added to Bullhead City’s considerable stock of big-box stores, which already included a Wal-Mart and a Kmart. Needles, meanwhile, had none, even though it had just as much cheap, empty desert land. This was the result of differing regulatory regimes: California has relatively high corporate tax rates and building regulations, while Arizona has neither. So when big-box stores want to expand into the region, they always build in Bullhead City, never in Needles. What used to be the source of Needles’s fortune—its location as “the gateway to California”—has become an inexorable part of its undoing.

https://thenewinquiry.com/needles-and-the-damage-done/

Agreed about Bullhead but: LE does a LOT of "whack a mole" here it talking tweakers and dealers and, their kind ARE arrested.

Laughlin: a LOT of the people working there are low wage room cleaning people. Too; minimum wage in Az and Calif's now $10 an hour, Nevada's is still 8 something.
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Old 05-14-2017, 07:54 PM
 
Location: Texas
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LOL. I know one current US President who would disagree with you.

Who earns one dollar and spends 2 dollars?? Apple? Google? Oracle? Qualcom? Facebook? Broadcom? Nvidia? Genetech? Salesforce? or is it Trump's favorite... Twitter?

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Agreed. Technically not yet, we haven't received the final budget. it's just a formality though. I haven't seen any indication Trump wants to cut spending.
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Old 05-15-2017, 02:25 AM
 
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You mean illegal aliens that CA want in order to exploit them for cheap wages? For that per student government money that comes into the schools? For those illegal alien votes for Democrats who promise them amnesty at a cost of billions of taxpayer dollars? Or are you talking about immigrants and they should not be overwhelming the state.

Yes, illegal aliens continue to pour into the country and since CA has the welcome mat out for them despite their crimes, you got them.

No, how many people live below the poverty line is the right question to ask and the ones being fooled are the illegal aliens thinking that CA wants to do anything more than exploit them for all they are worth, which isn't much considering what they arrive with.

CA's true poverty rate was determined to be 20.6%, the highest in the nation. https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckde.../#27a23f2012d9 Considering that rate of poverty, it hardly looks like the land of opportunity.
CA has one of the best upward mobility index in the union.

To sum it for you in a simple way that you can understand - in CA, poverty is where people start with. In red states, poverty is where people end up in.


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Violent crime rose by 10% in 2015 in CA: Homicides by 9.7% and aggravated assault by more than 8%.

Violent crime in California rose 10% in 2015, state attorney general says - LA Times
LOL. Talk about lies and damn lies. You think I wasn't going to look over the article you cited -- in it, it says the uptick in violent crime is after two straight years of decline, and more than 100% better than 1993 when a Republican was governor.

If Lebron James scored 40 pts, then 50 pts the next game, and then the 3rd game scored 45 pt, you'd spin it as a "10% decline in pts!!!" When in fact, it is still way above average.



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Out migration in CA, between 2004 and 2013, roughly 5 million people left CA: Roughly 5 million people left California in the last decade. See where they went | The Sacramento Bee

This says that CA exports their poorer citizens out of the state: California exports its poor to Texas, other states, while wealthier people move in | The Sacramento Bee
Somehow a feeble mind thinks this proves something????

Yes, some people move out of CA and some people move into CA. Some people who moved out happened to be poor. Wow, what a great observation you just discovered!!!


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What was the OP saying again?
Nothing that you manged to refute. In fact, some of your stuff supports what I'm saying.
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Old 05-15-2017, 02:29 AM
 
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Because the majority in Californication are wrong. It isn't called the land of fruits and nuts for nothing.

If liberals are so great why did the rest of the country ditch them in droves over the last 8 years while CA doubled down on the crazies? Let me guess, it's because the people in CA are sooooo much smarter than everyone else.
Yes.

The result speaks for itself. Just go back to my original post and read the Bloomberg article.


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And then people ask what's so wrong with the left.
The only people asking that are the crazy right-wings. They are so deep in crazyland that normal and reasonable now appear to them as far out.
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Old 05-15-2017, 02:59 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Sorry cons, facts don't lie.

#FactsTrumpAlternativeFacts

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Socialism doesn't work, because eventually you run out of other people's money.
Margaret Thatcher.
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Old 05-15-2017, 10:58 AM
 
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Californias issues are spending related and not economy related.

It's fair to say that, and every Republican who runs for offices say he/she will fix the spending issue and ended up making an even bigger mess.

At the end, it's always a Democratic governor who get things under control. Mind you, not every Democratic governor does a good job, but if there is a good governor, it's always a liberal; dating back to Reagan (whose policy would make him a far left liberal today).

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Old 05-15-2017, 11:02 AM
 
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Socialism doesn't work, because eventually you run out of other people's money.
Margaret Thatcher.

But Free Trade and Capitalism DOES work and CA is proving it.

Trump's brand of protectionism and anti-capitalism is going to ruin the country.
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Old 05-15-2017, 11:10 AM
 
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Since I left San Diego for Morganton NC a year ago, I have more high paying work that I can handle and don't have as much time to respond as I would like. But there is a recent Reuters article/interview with the state controller, Yee, that show just how well CA is doing.

Maybe when I leave my $13/hr office job in furniture (my company pays $10.36 for the same position in San Diego) and go home tonight consuming my $1.99/gal gas to my nice $45K, multi acre farm and it's 7.5 year mortgage with the $650/yr property taxes to fund an education system 2 slots better than California's, I may have a chance to post a link and dwell on the valid reality of the OP's post.
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Old 05-15-2017, 11:12 AM
 
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To be fair, it is much harder to get black powder for my musket here than in California, and with my duck farm, small farm food safety regs were less stringent in California for poultry processing than in NC.
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